PSA for engineers and recent or soon-to-be engineering grads

I've worked for the government before and will never again. My coworkers were some of the laziest barely employable people I've ever met.

Sounds like a perfect job for lazy arse millennials living in Mom's basement.

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Make sure you go and enlist for 4 years and then apply and you'll be guaranteed to get a spot. I am all for hiring veterans, but it's damn near impossible for even the most qualified non-veterans to get one of these jobs. Although I'm not an engineer so maybe those positions are different.

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Absolutely. When I was looking for government jobs that was my experience.

What is the starting pay

I think they start recent grads at GS 7, step 10. So 74k


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Applying for federal jobs require a completely mindset when it comes to resumes

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Wrong. If your resume doesn't say military service on it, you're already 5 steps behind.

These people are REQUIRED BY LAW to give preference to veterans, and to mitigate the threat of being sued (or worse), they will hire an unqualified vet over a qualified civ 10 out of 10 times.

how many vets have a BSEE or ChemE?

in my experience, there aren't many patent examiner vets whatsoever

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Wrong. If your resume doesn't say military service on it, you're already 5 steps behind.

These people are REQUIRED BY LAW to give preference to veterans, and to mitigate the threat of being sued (or worse), they will hire an unqualified vet over a qualified civ 10 out of 10 times.

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Not entirely true. Sometimes they just close the window without hiring anyone. Then they open it back up with hope to eliminate some of the candidates from the first go around.

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I've worked for the government before and will never again. My coworkers were some of the laziest barely employable people I've ever met.

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Sounds like you missed out on a great opportunity. I’ve spent most of my career in the private sector and moved through the ranks pretty quickly. Had an opportunity for a dream job with the federal government, applied and got it. I did take a substantial pay cut but this wasn’t about money for me. Having a great work ethic and a considerable amount of experience gave me the opportunity to do many details and see a lot of the Country. Hard workers usually fair quiet well in the government.

10 years later, I still don’t make what I used to but I feel like I’m one of the luckiest people alive to be able to live where I do and do what I do. I’ll be the first to say sure, there are some lazy people, but there are also some great workers. I’ll put my team up against anyone.

One other thing I see in government is RIP’s. Retired in place is what I call them. With Trump’s economy we are seeing more and more of them retire thankfully.

Sorry you had a bad experience,.

There are so many window lickers in federal employment it's insane. And I worked for the IC. You would think that they would be able to use the restrooms correctly with a TS/SCI. Mental illness is rampant.