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re: PSA: 48V ~10A is bad mkay

Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:55 am to
I thought this was about a trolling motor with too small of a fuse.

Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49100 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:06 am to
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Our RNC's and larger 48U Racks do that. These are server chassis though and we absolutely rarely change them. The blades themselves are hot swappable.


Gotcha now. I didn't realize you were dealing with servers.

Yea. You lucky frick.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:36 am to


Job got done though!



Edit: here's a pic



Power was hot from the lightblue clips and above. The breaker is further below.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33867 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:43 am to
Mustve been a FPE product.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:52 am to
Also I was wrong on the 10A, apparently it blew the 50A breaker in the distribution panel
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34629 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:55 pm to
48 volts? Seems weird
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9510 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:19 pm to
Voltage doesn't kill you. Amperage does.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:24 pm to
Correct!
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3264 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:50 pm to
Yeah, how the hell does 48v arc like that?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22343 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:53 pm to
something doesn't add up here......5" arc from 48V?

Some of these numbers I'm guessing are typos.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22343 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Voltage doesn't kill you. Amperage does.


Sort of a half truth there. You can't have amperage w/out voltage. Voltage is the potential energy that then becomes "kinetic" (for lack of better term). Power/energy is what kills you.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3264 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Sort of a half truth there. You can't have amperage w/out voltage. Voltage is the potential energy that then becomes "kinetic" (for lack of better term). Power/energy is what kills you.



I like on movies where they torture/shock people with a 12v car battery. Yeah right.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
It was over 50A that came through the wire (we had to replace a 50A rated breaker in the distribution panel.)

There were two events that happened pretty damn fast, first a big pop (which is pretty normal for something like this) followed by a quick buzz arc'd discharge that hit the side of the rack in the picture.

The distance from the breaker on the line to the side of the rack was roughly 5 inches.

edit: Our distribution panel currently has ~54.9V / 500A it's managing. The Modules you see in the rack have a V rating of -48 (obviously there's really no such thing as negative voltage, we simply put the hot wire in the neg port)
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76202 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:48 pm to
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A good 5 inch arch happened inside the cabinet
Like this but smaller?



Or like this arc but smaller?


Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:48 pm to
arc* typo geez
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76202 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:51 pm to
Glad you're OK

It would have been a shock to us here if something had happened to you.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Glad you're OK

It would have been a shock to us here if something had happened to you.

That joke Hertz.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76202 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:28 pm to
Have an upvolt for that.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5092 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:53 pm to
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The discharged arc'd to the rack which is properly grounded. So technically the discharge went where it's designed to go


Did you go outside and collect the nightcrawlers?
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Voltage doesn't kill you. Amperage does.

But you have to have enough voltage to push the current through the human body in order to kill:

I=E/R

For example, a 12 volt battery that can deliver 200 amps won't harm a human at all because of the electrical resistance of the human body.
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