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re: Prominent Physician: Don't get a COVID shot

Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38853 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:25 pm to
My father is as healthy as an 86 year old can be just had a heart attack three days after getting the first shot. Anecdotal? Yep, but worth mentioning.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:27 pm to
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Made my pecker grow 5 inches so now it is 8 inches long and stays hard



Musta got that

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:28 pm to
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My father is as healthy as an 86 year old can be just had a heart attack three days after getting the first shot. Anecdotal?


You know what else can cause that? Stress. Making the man nervous about getting the vaccine probably doesn't help. Puts him in a no-win situation and that anxiety can have terrible physiological effects. A healthy 86 is still 86.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2430 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:32 pm to
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But what if it saves your mom, like you said?


It won’t save her, you a-hole, because as i said, she died from a reaction to the vaccine.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78906 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:37 pm to
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It won’t save her, you a-hole, because as i said, she died from a reaction to the vaccine.



Why is it just about your mom?

Getting the vaccine definitely saved someone's mom, as did the lockdowns.

Do you not see how flawed your line of thinking is?

Just because your mom died, doesn't mean people shouldn't get the vaccine. Just because someone's mom didn't die from COVID, doesn't mean we should lockdown for a year.

Sentimentality doesn't fly. Statistics do. Hardly anyone is dying from the vaccine.

Get the vaccine and quit thinking everything is a fricking conspiracy theory.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Prominent Physician: I’m bad at math
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2430 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Just because your mom died, doesn't mean people shouldn't get the vaccine. Just because someone's mom didn't die from COVID, doesn't mean we should lockdown for a year.


I agree that herd immunity will keep the most people from dying. I’m not against the COVID vaccine. My argument is that people should make their own choices based on the information they have and whatever personal factors come into play.

I am against forced vaccinations, as well as forced lockdowns, and i have chosen not to get the vaccine. This is due to the fact that i have had the virus and therefore have *some* degree of natural immunity, as well as the possibility that whatever made her susceptible to dying from a vaccine reaction may be genetic.

As far as vaccine immunity vs natural immunity, i have read the data. This vaccine has been in use by the public for less than 6 months. Time will tell if the superior immunity holds up. I may make a different decision in the future depending on any new information. Until then, you can’t force me to get the vaccine and i won’t force you not to.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
24655 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Getting the vaccine definitely saved someone's mom, as did the lockdowns.


The lockdowns killed people and put people in poverty. There is no evidence that this vaccine has "saved" anyone. That's asinine.


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Hardly anyone is dying from the vaccine.

There's evidence to the contrary or did you miss the repeated instances where the media, government, and Big Tech has censored and suppressed information over the past 15 months and were wholly wrong?


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Get the vaccine and quit thinking everything is a fricking conspiracy theory.


Nobody should get a vaccine for a virus that has a 99% survival rate. Why introduce more risk by taking a vaccine that is relatively untested and using new technology that has ZERO longterm studies? This is not conspiracy theory. It is risk assessment.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21887 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:50 pm to
This entire post is wrong, and I'll just leave it at that
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78906 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:33 pm to
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The lockdowns killed people


How did closing restaurants and businesses kill someone?

Did people commit suicide? Sure.

But saying the lockdowns killed them is like saying someone who died from something else during COVID was killed by COVID.

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There's evidence to the contrary or did you miss the repeated instances where the media, government, and Big Tech has censored and suppressed information over the past 15 months and were wholly wrong?



Wow, you are insanely dumb.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13068 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104248 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:05 pm to
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My father is as healthy as an 86 year old can be just had a heart attack three days after getting the first shot. Anecdotal? Yep, but worth mentioning.


My parents are just slightly younger than that and had the shot with no side effects at all. OTOH it put me on my arse for two days and it felt like Braxxtyn used my arm for batting practice.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:12 pm to
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This entire post is wrong, and I'll just leave it at that


His entire post is spot on.


Does the vaccine that you are pressuring people to get work or not?

Yes or no?

If so, why do I need to get vaccinated when the old and "at risk" can simply get themselves vaccinated and therefore they are protected?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104248 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:19 pm to
It doesn't make a shite to me whether you get vaccinated or not, and the risk of vaccine resistant variants emerging from the unvaccinated seems to be not panning out. However, there's a certain population of people who can't get vaccines or for whom vaccines don't work; eg, transplant recipients, etc. I know a guy who had Guilaune Barre syndrome and he can't ever get a vaccination of any kind. Everybody else getting vaccinated helps them too. Does that mean you should get vaccinated? Again, that's up to you. I'm not one to force people against their will. Just saying that you'd be doing those people a favor.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88612 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:39 pm to
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His entire post is spot on.


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Does the vaccine that you are pressuring people to get work or not?

Yes or no?
Yes

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If so, why do I need to get vaccinated when the old and "at risk" can simply get themselves vaccinated and therefore they are protected?


You don't.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21887 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:43 pm to
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His entire post is spot on.


His entire post is retarded conspiracy theory drivel.

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Does the vaccine that you are pressuring people to get work or not?


I'm not pressuring anyone to get it, but it does work.

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If so, why do I need to get vaccinated when the old and "at risk" can simply get themselves vaccinated and therefore they are protected


You don't, which is why a large majority of the country has seen plummeting cases, deaths, and therefore removed restrictions.

Now, onto his post:

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The lockdowns killed people and put people in poverty. There is no evidence that this vaccine has "saved" anyone. That's asinine.


Arguing that "the vaccine hasn't saved anyone" is pants on head retarded. The vaccine is incredibly effective at protecting people from contracting the virus, and even more effective at lessening symptoms if they do happen to catch it. Very, very few people have died from COVID after being vaccinated and based on evidence, it's likely they contracted the virus before receiving the vaccine.

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Hardly anyone is dying from the vaccine.


There's evidence to the contrary or did you miss the repeated instances where the media, government, and Big Tech has censored and suppressed information over the past 15 months and were wholly wrong?

Hardly anyone is dying from the vaccine. If your only retort to this is that people are dying in masses from the shot and there's a massive conspiracy to keep it quiet, you're a conspiracy theorist and should be ignored. There is zero evidence that people are dying, much less in large numbers, due to the vaccine.


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Nobody should get a vaccine for a virus that has a 99% survival rate. Why introduce more risk by taking a vaccine that is relatively untested and using new technology that has ZERO longterm studies? This is not conspiracy theory. It is risk assessment.



As far as we know, the vaccine has a lower risk of causing injury or death than COVID. The idea that we wouldn't vaccinate or take medicine for something that's easily survivable is nonsense. Do you take ibuprofen for headaches? Do you take antacids for heartburn? Headaches and heartburn won't kill you, so why are you taking medicine that greatly increases your risk? See how silly that sounds?

The idea that we can't safely take a vaccine until we've had decades of studies making sure there are no long term effects is a requirement that no medicine or treatment goes through. Yes, we should and will continue to study and monitor these things, but it's asinine to say that it's required before we can safely use it.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8636 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:46 pm to
Always like to check out the sources of these



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Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29553 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:51 pm to
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My cardiologist say NO vaccine....not yet, until they learn more.


Who is your cardiologist? Name and city please.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29553 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:56 pm to
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There is no evidence that this vaccine has "saved" anyone.

Lol. It has destroyed the rate of hospitalization and life threatening illness for the virus.
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Nobody should get a vaccine for a virus that has a 99% survival rate.

What about the flu vaccine? Why is it standard for healthcare workers to get it every year?

Do you ever cite legitimate medical research or just post shitty conspiracy blogs that support your fricked up world view? I was skeptical about the vaccine and held off on getting it. As more info came out it appears safe and I got it. I’m glad I did. Hanging out with my grandparents is nice.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:01 pm to
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Hanging out with my grandparents is nice.


My grandparents would have laughed in my face had I told them I wasn’t coming over because of COVID, but my grandparents weren’t indoctrinated lemmings willing to sacrifice what little time they had left based on the contradictory words of unelected bureaucrats from another country.
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