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re: Professor presents his class with dilemma

Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

n fair question

anyone who had an A in the class would have checked the 6 point option with the goal in mind of getting more then 10% so it would hurt the others who do not have As

they would be more concerned with class rank....

Agree, assuming there is some type of curve in place, if everyone in the class gets 2 points it's the same as no one getting them...

6 points is definitely the correct answer.

If you select 6 points, there is a chance that you will end up with 4 additional points that 90% of the class didn't get.

If you select 2 points, then best case scenario you have the same amount of extra points as everyone in your class, but more likely there will be some classmates that have a 4 point advantage on you.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:33 pm to
6 for me. I'm betting less than 10% of the rest are as selfish and self-centered as I am.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:37 pm to
I do this when I go out to bars. "Ladies you can either choose to suck me off or frick me, but if more than 10% of you choose to frick I'm just gonna go home and jerk-off."

I end up jerking off a lot.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

un fair question

anyone who had an A in the class would have checked the 6 point option with the goal in mind of getting more then 10% so it would hurt the others who do not have As

they would be more concerned with class rank....
Since it's unlikely that there is a true normalization (i.e., curving up and down, down being the key here) in an introduction to social psych class, this reasoning doesn't make much sense. Therefore, the students with relative safe grades would be more likely to choose 2 then.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:47 pm to
This is dumb because 2 points don't really help on a test and of course its impossible to get the 6% and it's impossible to get the 2% as people are greedy. And this is Germans, but no one called it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

6 for me. I'm betting less than 10% of the rest are as selfish and self-centered as I am.
Well looking at the course catalog, it appears that that the course enrollment is capped at 150. So given a full course of 150, you better hope that no more than 13 of the remaining 149 (8.7%) are as selfish as you.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

This is dumb because 2 points don't really help on a test and of course its impossible to get the 6% and it's impossible to get the 2% as people are greedy. And this is Germans, but no one called it.
So it's a story you've already read and possibly commented on, and the best response you could provide is pure nonsense?
Posted by Plankton
Member since Jun 2015
1455 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:52 pm to
Nash equilibrium.
Students should have read up on it before they chose 6 points.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 3:52 pm to
Easy I would pick 2.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:13 pm to
Teaching socialism as a moral issue is unethical. He basically said "if you care about yourself more than the collective, you're going to be punished".

Capitalism is based on the idea that everyone working toward their own good is beneficial to the collective, and not in a limiting way like socialism. With capitalism, everyone isn't guaranteed a six, but they're not limited to a 2.

This is why so many college graduates today are really no more "educated" than they went in.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2543 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Well looking at the course catalog, it appears that that the course enrollment is capped at 150. So given a full course of 150, you better hope that no more than 13 of the remaining 149 (8.7%) are as selfish as you.


Don't you mean "no more than 14 of the remaining 149"?
Posted by Zoltan
NOLA
Member since May 2010
1396 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:50 pm to
Would have been interesting to see the result if he said the names would NOT be anonymous.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:54 pm to
Extra credit is for retards
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Don't you mean "no more than 14 of the remaining 149"?
I was assuming 10% or more, but looking back, it does say more than 10% so you're probably right.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:02 pm to
John Nash and Matthew Broderick approve of this
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15388 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Agree, assuming there is some type of curve in place, if everyone in the class gets 2 points it's the same as no one getting them...

6 points is definitely the correct answer.

If you select 6 points, there is a chance that you will end up with 4 additional points that 90% of the class didn't get.

If you select 2 points, then best case scenario you have the same amount of extra points as everyone in your class, but more likely there will be some classmates that have a 4 point advantage on you.


This is exactly right. One other point is that it is exceedingly unlikely that you will be the vote that pushes the class from 9.9% to 10%. The odds are high that the 10% threshold will be met (or not) irrespective of your vote - so you should discount its importance accordingly.

I talked my wife through this last night. I bet there is a strong gender bias in these answers, with women being more likely to say 2%. That is what she said at first but I won her over with the sheer overpowering force of my masculine logic.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
11171 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:28 pm to
Need more info. Are there more than 50 questions to where 2 points makes a difference? How many total students? If its like 60 I know there are more than 6 jackasses so o go low, 20-30, depends on my confidence on the material and the original question of 2 points means I get to miss 1 freebie
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106149 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Teaching socialism as a moral issue is unethical. He basically said "if you care about yourself more than the collective, you're going to be punished".

Capitalism is based on the idea that everyone working toward their own good is beneficial to the collective, and not in a limiting way like socialism. With capitalism, everyone isn't guaranteed a six, but they're not limited to a 2.



Conversely, it's a Tragedy Of The Commons scenario. eg, if everybody overfishes, eventually nobody gets any fish.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34321 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:19 pm to
The dumbasses probably didn't realize that if less than 10% of the class had chosen 6 points that they would all get 6 points in the end.
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2543 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:46 pm to
WTF?

Damnit man,
did you even read the frickin' paragraph in the OP?

It clearly states "final paper grade," twice. It says absolutely nothing about a test or any questions.

GTFO, moron.

You too, Napoleon!

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