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re: Problems with the premix fuel for small 2 stroke engines?

Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73155 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:51 am to
I've never had an issue with stabilizer
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:57 am to
Watch out for some stuff called "mechanic in a bottle".

It gummed up the system in my lawmower. I took it to the repair guy and he said mine was the 3rd one he worked on that week with that issue.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:48 am to
Almost all newer, high quality equipment comes with rubber and plastic that can tolerate ethanol. If someone needs to let a piece of equipment sit up for a while, they should just change the hoses to ones that are okay for ethanol, and empty the bowl out before putting it up.

The stuff that clogs jets usually comes from the hoses, the gasket around the bowl drain, or the bowl o-ring.


Eta: I recently picked up a new fuel line kit to go from the tank to engine at West Marine. It came with this grey hose that had some liner in it. First thing I did was switch it out to automotive fuel line
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100338 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:59 am to
I'll have to ask my grounds keeper if he has ever had these issues
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12162 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:05 pm to
I was going to ask about that Mechanic in a Bottle...
My brother swears by it, I haven't had any luck.

I mix my own non-ethanol, but 87 octane. Few problems encountered.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Gave up on ALL 2 cycle engines a long time ago...top of the line long run battery equip. is the only way to maintain a regular sized yard !


Had a conversation recently with a engineer that works for Poulan, he said they are reducing their research into new designs of small 2 stroke engines because advances in battery and electric motor technology will make them obsolete in the new future.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Had a conversation recently with a engineer that works for Poulan, he said they are reducing their research into new designs of small 2 stroke engines because advances in battery and electric motor technology will make them obsolete in the new future.


An electric weedeater, blower, etc is far more economical over time.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:16 pm to
I talk a lot to the project manager over the largest hand held outdoor power equipment mfg company in the world.
Yes, battery powered is growing and he is over that business unit also. Yes, they made huge investments in this sector just like robotic powered mowers. These are growth markets.

No, they are not stopping or slowing down on gas powered research.
The cost of battery powered products versus the technology to maximize the batteries power is what is keeping the technology from growing sales wise.

They also make commercial battery powered products, commercial docking stations to charge batteries,and battery powered zero turns. They do have people that purchase these products. Gas powered products are still way in the lead again as cost versus what the customer is willing to pay is not there yet. Batteries and cost are holding this back.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 1:24 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4766 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:38 pm to
I get the oil that comes in the bottle where you squeeze it and a cup at the top fills up so it's easy to measure out. Not really any reason to pay the absurd premium on the premixed stuff.

You can mix several gallons for the same price as 1qt of that stuff. Also, as others said, there's no telling how long it sat on the shelf.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2825 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:18 pm to
Run some Klotz Super Techniplate Castor Blend. It's made for racing two stroke engines. You won't burn up a Weedeater with it, has a good smell when it burns too. If you want something cheaper, Autozone has an air cooled 2 cycle by the quart. Don't run TCW3 marine oil in an air cooled engine. Doesn't have as much film strength. You want JASO FB, FC,or FD. The Autozone stuff is FB last time I checked.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 10:19 pm
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16690 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:23 pm to
Sure I will pass the word to my Mexican lawn guy to not buy that stuff.
Posted by pickle311
Liberty Hill TX
Member since Sep 2008
1282 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:50 pm to
Go to any local motorcycle shop and get a bottle of maxima K2 premix, or whatever decent synthetic they have. Now go to a small airport and get a couple gallons for 100LL Avgas. It mixes very well with synthetic oils and will have a much longer shelf life. Very minimal outgassing unlike pump gas, no ethanol, no odor, burns clean, absorbs less moisture out of the air. You can thank me later.

If you really want to have some fun, go get some VP C12. I ran my weedeater on C12 one summer from my race bikes because I was too lazy to go get another can and mix gas just for it. That thing ripped, you could hear the difference. It died at the end of the summer though. Not sure what happened, but felt like it lost compression. I should have taken it apart to see what went wrong.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18859 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:38 am to
Why waste money on exotic, race-grade oil and fuels for yard equipment? Common, cheaper mix oils that meet/exceed JASO FD are perfectly fine and 89 octane gas with some Sta-bil is plenty good enough. Vast majority of the problems come from people not doing the maintenance at the end of the season; draining out the fuel tanks, run the carb empty, and keeping stale fuel until the next season. Also, using junk fuel containers. I have Eagle and No-Spill gas cans which seal properly. Small engine fuel tanks have vent holes in them so the fuel and air can mix which causes moisture and varnish issues, that's why they need to be drained if not used for more than a few weeks.
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