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Pro or Con: AI assisted "belligerence recognition" for use by law enforcement
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:33 am
It works similar of object recognition, but instead of video it works with audio, similar but a more advanced "gun shot detection". The application is tied to the officer's body cam, and detects various vocal patterns, tones, pitches, etc...and based on standards set by experts (not the officer) will alert the officer when they have approval to subdue the person for their & public safety.
The data is based on thousands of hours of body cam footage interactions with the public where undesirable escalations occured that would have been prevented with law enforcement controlling the situation at the first sign of belligerence.
The data, recognition, and alerts are reviewed by psychologists, legal experts, law enforcement professionals, and various other community stakeholders for applicability.
The overall goal is to aid in removing biases and allowing technology to assist in removing the judgement of fault of all interactions solely on the officer.
Essentially, if someone if yelling at a police officer and the alert triggers, the officer is given the greenlight to cuff/detain the person before proceeding further in their investigations.
The data is based on thousands of hours of body cam footage interactions with the public where undesirable escalations occured that would have been prevented with law enforcement controlling the situation at the first sign of belligerence.
The data, recognition, and alerts are reviewed by psychologists, legal experts, law enforcement professionals, and various other community stakeholders for applicability.
The overall goal is to aid in removing biases and allowing technology to assist in removing the judgement of fault of all interactions solely on the officer.
Essentially, if someone if yelling at a police officer and the alert triggers, the officer is given the greenlight to cuff/detain the person before proceeding further in their investigations.
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:35 am to Kujo
This is what dystopia looks like.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:35 am to Kujo
Yeah nothing could go wrong here...
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:36 am to Kujo
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The overall goal is to aid in removing biases and allowing technology to assist in removing the judgement of fault of all interactions solely on the officer.
Essentially, if someone if yelling at a police officer and the alert triggers, the officer is given the greenlight to cuff/detain the person before proceeding further in their investigations.
Well, this technology will be deemed racist in about 3 days
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:37 am to CFDoc
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Yeah nothing could go wrong here...
Someone is detained or subdued while an investigation is pending, not arrested or incarcerated because of yelling.
If an officer shows up to a domestic violence incident, and the guy has his shirt off & was yelling about something, The audio would detect the anger in his voice and inform the officer that he needs to control that person because the person may act irrationally in the next few minutes.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:38 am to Kujo
Sounds like they’ve got it all figured out then...
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:39 am to upgrayedd
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Well, this technology will be deemed racist in about 3 days
The vocal recognition patterns are set by professionals, not "racist officers" nor "racist computers"
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:39 am to Kujo
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reviewed by psychologists, legal experts, law enforcement professionals, and various other community stakeholders for applicability.
So they enact their measurement of control by controlling the officer. But who controls the controller?
I’ve seen this “movie” before.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:40 am to Kujo
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The vocal recognition patterns are set by professionals, not "racist officers" nor "racist computers"
I don't think you understand how this works, kid
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:45 am to Kujo
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If an officer shows up to a domestic violence incident, and the guy has his shirt off & was yelling about something, The audio would detect the anger in his voice and inform the officer that he needs to control that person because the person may act irrationally in the next few minutes.
Does an officer really need a machine to tell him that this person needs to be controlled?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:46 am to Kujo
This is ridiculous. A cop fearing tone of voice. Good grief.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:47 am to Alyosha
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So they enact their measurement of control by controlling the officer. But who controls the controller?
Removing "judgement calls" and replacing them with data backed pre-approvals.
Like that thread the other day where the officer needed to call ahead and get permission to "Pit" the driver.
This is AI driven, where in the PIT case AI detects the situation, and gives permission for the officer to PIT if needed. In the reference, AI would detect the slowing speed and the turn signal, and not trigger the pit permission.
If AI detected a high rate of speed and erratic driving, and instantly compared It to traffic in front of the driver (ie. Waze, slow traffic ahead) it would tell the officer to PIT the driver if safe/able to do so.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:48 am to Kujo
As long as I have Parameter Admin rights, I’m fine with it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:48 am to Kujo
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Pro or Con: AI assisted "belligerence recognition" for use by law enforcement
This reads like a term that should be found in a dystopian novel.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:49 am to Kujo
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The vocal recognition patterns are set by professionals, not "racist officers" nor "racist computers"
Oh...that's different.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:52 am to Kujo
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The data is based on thousands of hours of body cam footage interactions with the public where undesirable escalations occured that would have been prevented with law enforcement controlling the situation at the first sign of belligerence.
this makes it seem like the officers have an overly high threshold for belligerence
my understanding is that IRL, they have almost no threshold for what constitutes belligerence/danger and escalate situations unnecessarily often
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:53 am to upgrayedd
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I don't think you understand how this works, kid
Maybe it's largely a generational thing, but I think this is why Orwell's 1984 does not have quite the same terrifying impact on young people today as it did in the past, when we actually had and understood what it was like to have freedom and not be under surveillance 24/7 nearly everywhere we went.
We've got a poster here arguing in favor of the Prequel to Minority Report and can't quite see why anyone would have a problem with it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:55 am to Kujo
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The vocal recognition patterns are set by professionals, not "racist officers" nor "racist computers"The vocal recognition patterns are set by professionals, not "racist officers" nor "racist computers"
One of those “in theory” sounds good initiatves, but in reality it will play out quite differently.
Officer: “Step away from the vehicle and keep your hands up!”
Republican: “Yes sir” and complies.
Democrat: F…k you mutha f…er, I DIN DO NUTTN, KISS MY arse, I’M GINNA F…k YOU UP!”
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:55 am to GeauxTigerTM
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This reads like a term that should be found in a dystopian novel.
This is exactly why.
The term I used triggered "bad feels", how should it be worded "use of force checker! AI checks to make sure the officer isn't just beating you up because they don't like your skin tone!"
Now do you want it! "Yeah, frick pigs"
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:57 am to ldts
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Does an officer really need a machine to tell him that this person needs to be controlled?
compare a cop to a teacher, they're both govt employees. Teachers just shell out a system, zero personal thought required. That's what govt wants all govt employees to do, no thinking.
someone insert Michael Scott driving into a lake because the GPS told him to.
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