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private school tuition vs. e-learing
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:33 am
Does your kids' school have a different plan for the fall for potential closures? Just to be clear, I don't think they will need to be shut down, but it seems like they should have a better plan in place for the upcoming year. Especially since private schools usually blindly follow public schools.
Over the weekend I was talking to a buddy of mine that also has small kids Pre-k/kindergarten age. He contacted his kids' school and was told their plan for the fall would be the same as it was this past spring which was to do e-learning for all grades, even pre-k3. He's not happy. Why pay private school tuition again for e-learning? I'd think e-learning has more benefits for the older students, but it's basically worthless for a 3 or 4-year-old. The kids would be better in daycare since they have been open for the most part.
I just kinda wrote-off the tuition we paid for last year as a loss. This past school year is somewhat excusable since there wasn't time to plan, but there is plenty of time to plan something for the fall that would allow students to get the education we are paying for. I am going to ask my kids' school, but sadly I am expecting them to tell me nothing will change. I'm just wondering if any other schools are making plans to stay open.
ETA: Just to clarify, I meant to say the school said they would do e-learning IF the need arose due to the pandemic. In other words, they will be open in August, but if the public schools close in November, this private school will go back to e-learning for all grades.
Over the weekend I was talking to a buddy of mine that also has small kids Pre-k/kindergarten age. He contacted his kids' school and was told their plan for the fall would be the same as it was this past spring which was to do e-learning for all grades, even pre-k3. He's not happy. Why pay private school tuition again for e-learning? I'd think e-learning has more benefits for the older students, but it's basically worthless for a 3 or 4-year-old. The kids would be better in daycare since they have been open for the most part.
I just kinda wrote-off the tuition we paid for last year as a loss. This past school year is somewhat excusable since there wasn't time to plan, but there is plenty of time to plan something for the fall that would allow students to get the education we are paying for. I am going to ask my kids' school, but sadly I am expecting them to tell me nothing will change. I'm just wondering if any other schools are making plans to stay open.
ETA: Just to clarify, I meant to say the school said they would do e-learning IF the need arose due to the pandemic. In other words, they will be open in August, but if the public schools close in November, this private school will go back to e-learning for all grades.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 9:48 am
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:34 am to notbilly
Schools will be open, never to
Close again.
Close again.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:35 am to notbilly
If schools aren’t opened, people will not pay private school tuition. It doesn’t make sense.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:36 am to notbilly
They'll have school in the fall. My daughter's school is resuming some summer activities already.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:36 am to notbilly
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and was told their plan for the fall would be the same as it was this past spring which was to do e-learning for all grades, even pre-k3
Well they must have a death wish. My kids school is already doing summer camps.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
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If schools aren’t opened, people will not pay private school tuition. It doesn’t make sense.
Tuition for the upcoming school is typically due around now. In other words, the school will already have our money by the time this decision is made.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:37 am to notbilly
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Especially since private schools usually blindly follow public schools.
Wrong.... in my locale, public schools didnt do jack shite and just dismissed all students for fear of discriminating against those without access to technology, while private schools offered e-learning (although most of it was a joke anyway).
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:39 am to notbilly
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Tuition for the upcoming school is typically due around now. In other words, the school will already have our money by the time this decision is made.
I imagine they would have some major problems on their hands if they refused to refund some of the money if the school chooses to go e-learning route. I know I would be bitching up a storm everyday.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:41 am to fallguy_1978
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fallguy_1978
Where'd you guys eat the other night?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:45 am to thadcastle
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I imagine they would have some major problems on their hands if they refused to refund some of the money if the school chooses to go e-learning route. I know I would be bitching up a storm everyday.
You are right in that I'll be doing some bitching. However, I don't know of any school that reimbursed tuition for this past year and they were 'closed' for 20% of the school year. When my buddy contacted his kids' school (private school in BR), he was told that as long as the school is providing lessons and materials they felt like they were fulfilling their contract for this upcoming year.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:48 am to notbilly
I hear what you are saying but how much of a discount do you really expect?
It's not like the school is transitioning to virtual classrooms only. This is a stop gap until they can get everyone back on campus. They still have the physical property to care for, pay for, and maintain. So there won't be a discount there. They still have the same number of teachers and administrators (really all employees for the most part). One of the only changes is lack of food being provided and sports. But it isn't like they are going to fire all the coaches (in a temporary situation like this) and most coaches teach too. Plus they have the new expense (for most schools) of the online platforms being used.
Long story short, I don't see how much of a discount could be available due to virtual teaching unless they were transition to that platform full time and selling off assets and liabilities.
For the guy that said "why pay for private school if it is online". Why were you paying for it to begin with? I assume it wasn't for the "atmosphere" and it was for the quality of the education as compared to the alternative in your area. If that is correct, then you would be paying for it for the same reason...
Now I do believe you will start seeing more online type middle and upper schools popping up. Then the cost benefits happen. They can have 1 strong teacher teaching groups that are much larger (think 100 instead of 30 per) and back-fill with much cheaper teacher's aides to do one on one and additional help. Now combine that with no physical property to house the 400-1,000 students, lunch services, desks,... and you could start seeing some relatively affordable "private schools" that could change the face of education both public and private.
It's not like the school is transitioning to virtual classrooms only. This is a stop gap until they can get everyone back on campus. They still have the physical property to care for, pay for, and maintain. So there won't be a discount there. They still have the same number of teachers and administrators (really all employees for the most part). One of the only changes is lack of food being provided and sports. But it isn't like they are going to fire all the coaches (in a temporary situation like this) and most coaches teach too. Plus they have the new expense (for most schools) of the online platforms being used.
Long story short, I don't see how much of a discount could be available due to virtual teaching unless they were transition to that platform full time and selling off assets and liabilities.
For the guy that said "why pay for private school if it is online". Why were you paying for it to begin with? I assume it wasn't for the "atmosphere" and it was for the quality of the education as compared to the alternative in your area. If that is correct, then you would be paying for it for the same reason...
Now I do believe you will start seeing more online type middle and upper schools popping up. Then the cost benefits happen. They can have 1 strong teacher teaching groups that are much larger (think 100 instead of 30 per) and back-fill with much cheaper teacher's aides to do one on one and additional help. Now combine that with no physical property to house the 400-1,000 students, lunch services, desks,... and you could start seeing some relatively affordable "private schools" that could change the face of education both public and private.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:49 am to zeebo
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Schools will be open
too many "families" need the public schools open to feed and babysit their kids....
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:50 am to tigeraddict
I need the private schools open to babysit my kids. This 6 month long summer is driving me crazy.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:58 am to tigeraddict
You say that people use schools as babysitters but honest question, what do you do with elementary and middle school aged kids with two parents that work if neither parent works from home?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:01 am to notbilly
As soon as a kid test positive the school has to close. I would not be paying private school tuition for elearning
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:06 am to The Rodfather
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I hear what you are saying but how much of a discount do you really expect?
I really don't care about a discount. I'd like to see the school say they are going to plan to stay open as long as possible if the pandemic makes a return in November or December. I don't want them to blindly follow the public schools by shutting down without any effort to stay open. They have plenty of options. I'll sign a waiver... make the kids wear a mask. Spread the kids out. But charging someone full tuition for a 3-year-old to do e-learning is ridiculous. It's basically daycare. If summer camps and daycares can manage, the schools should be able to do the same especially for the kids that can't really benefit from e-learning.
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It's not like the school is transitioning to virtual classrooms only. This is a stop gap until they can get everyone back on campus. They still have the physical property to care for, pay for, and maintain. So there won't be a discount there. They still have the same number of teachers and administrators (really all employees for the most part). One of the only changes is lack of food being provided and sports. But it isn't like they are going to fire all the coaches (in a temporary situation like this) and most coaches teach too. Plus they have the new expense (for most schools) of the online platforms being used.
The school is certainly spending less money without being physically open. I don't know how much, but they haven't offered a penny back to parents. It's a private school, if they were spending extra money, I'd be getting an email about them needing the extra money. The fact that they haven't asked for anything tells me they are doing just fine. I'm ok with it. My money for this past year was spent a long time ago. I'm more concerned about what is happening moving forward.
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For the guy that said "why pay for private school if it is online". Why were you paying for it to begin with? I assume it wasn't for the "atmosphere" and it was for the quality of the education as compared to the alternative in your area. If that is correct, then you would be paying for it for the same reason...
My kid's could learn anywhere. I send my kids to a private school for the environment. Most of my friends will say the same. If I was happy with e-learning, why not send my kids to public school or just home school them?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:07 am to notbilly
This exact scenario is why I changed from my normal lump sum payment to the school to monthly payments throughout next school year. I didn't want them to flop back to crappy e-learning and get into a battle fighting for some refund. At least now, they're only holding on to a month's tuition at any given time. Honestly, not sure if that makes a bit of difference to them, but it makes me feel better.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:07 am to OysterPoBoy
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Where'd you guys eat the other night?
Rouj on Saturday night.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:11 am to MaxDraft
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This exact scenario is why I changed from my normal lump sum payment to the school to monthly payments throughout next school year. I didn't want them to flop back to crappy e-learning and get into a battle fighting for some refund. At least now, they're only holding on to a month's tuition at any given time. Honestly, not sure if that makes a bit of difference to them, but it makes me feel better.
This doesn't really work for me. For us to pay monthly, it's basically financed through a bank. The school gets the money up front and the bank finances it for the parents.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:19 am to Clark W Griswold
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As soon as a kid test positive the school has to close
Who is saying this?
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