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re: President Woodrow Wilson addressed Congress 100 years ago today

Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:13 pm to
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No one saw WW2 coming


Exactly. So Europe and the United States had no reason to occupy Germany in the aftermath of World War I. This is especially true when you consider what was going on in Germany in the early-20s. In 1921, the year Hitler took over leadership of the fledgling Nazi Party, no one saw Germany ever being a legitimate threat to the balance of power ever again.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:16 pm to
Again, goes back to my original statement of what would have happened had we occupied Germany post WW1 like we did post WW2.

Based off What would have happened if we stayed neutral
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:33 pm to
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Wilson may have the been the worst President ever.


most racist for sure
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:37 pm to
Prevent the Second World War that many people knew was going to happen when the treaty was signed.


It was obviously not a real peace treaty and more of a power and control grab that the entire war was based on.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:45 pm to
You remember the size of the German Army post WW2?

That's why we occupied them.

The occupation was a huge power grab too, but it is way off topic
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 8:46 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:12 pm to
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A lot of posters wanted to fight him.

Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:19 pm to
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Do you even Zimmerman Note, bro?


Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:51 pm to
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You remember the size of the German Army post WW2?
That's why we occupied them.
The occupation was a huge power grab too, but it is way off topic


You realize that a big part of that was to stop the Soviets from taking it all, right?

The German army had been so soundly defeated at that point on both fronts that they were no longer a threat.

It was the Red Army steamrolling towards Western Europe that motivated the occupation, that and trying I snatch up every Nazi scientist and engineer before the Soviets could.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:53 pm to
I see Someone listens to Dan carlin
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:59 pm to
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Wilson may have the been the worst President ever.



He created the federal reserve and got the 17th amendment passed and those two has done catastrophic damage to our country.

It destroyed purchasing power and eliminated representation for state governments in DC.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:03 am to
You missed my sarcasm.


quote:

You realize that a big part of that was to stop the Soviets from taking it all, right?

And this is what I referred to as the power play of occupation

quote:

The German army had been so soundly defeated at that point on both fronts that they were no longer a threat.


They were dismantled after WW1 as well
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 12:05 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 6:45 am to
In 1913 he declared war on taxpaying citizens; Fed Reserve Act & Income Tax Act.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:37 am to
It was't feasible for the Allies to occupy Germany at the end of the First World War. The British and French Armies were just as beaten down as the Germans. Both countries were basically bankrupt as well. We would have had to occupy Germany ourselves, something we were not capable of or interested in doing at the time. Our losses were terrible in the short time we were there, and American sentiment was to get far away from Europe.

Something else to consider is that in WW2, Germany was actually conquered. Their territory was taken, and therefore they could be occupied. World War 1 was a strategical stalemate. A full scale invasion of the entire country would never have occurred at that stage.

Saying "they should have occupied them" is Monday-morning quarterbacking the situation.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:41 am to
The first president to put Israel's interests ahead of our own

We entered WW1 because the Zionist(Israel didn't exist at the time) forces in our government urged us to

Look up the Balfour Declaration
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3833 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:53 am to
Also worth noting that there was a global flu pandemic from 1918-1920.

Why did the US retreat after WWI? Johnny came home with a touch of the flu that killed 675k Americans, 10x more than died on the battlefield.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 12:03 pm
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