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re: Preferential treatment towards minority owned businesses: how is this legal?
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:48 am to stout
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:48 am to stout
quote:Being a single mom usually helps no one. Dan Quayle couldn't spell potato, but he got the single mom thing right.
Being a single black mom absolutely helps her.
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Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:49 am to MadDoggyStyle
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Also, when do these people you describe ever start taking any responsibility for being put in jail, lack of job skills, education, etc?
Neither black nor whites on welfare etc. take responsibility. It works both ways.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:51 am to bcoop199
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Be a black, lesbian that's disabled and you're gold.
And work for people who suspect you from the beginning of being incompetent, incapable, lazy and unworthy from the beginning? You call that gold?
Apply for a job at my company and I'll treat you that way from the moment you sign on. We'll see how gold you feel.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:56 am to Mars duMorgue
And this is why I hate the concept of affirmative action and anything like it. Meritorious work is ignored, while mistakes and imperfections are seen as incompetence.
It breeds resentment and distrust, and it assumes that marginalized groups are somehow inferior.
It breeds resentment and distrust, and it assumes that marginalized groups are somehow inferior.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:09 am to LSUTANGERINE
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:15 am to stout
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Be a minority and woman
My Dad put his business in my mom's name so he could got a minority owned tax break...
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:16 am to Kraut Dawg
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Yet, the numbers state that proportionality does not
Huh? Are you saying that proportionally whites on welfare take responsibility? And that the numbers show that whites who lack job skills and are on welfare take responsibility?
Or are you saying that proportionally more blacks are on welfare and unemployed , even though more whites are on welfare, unemployed, and lack education?
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:26 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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discrimination is only bad if it's from a person of the dominant culture against a person of a marginalized group
This is federal law. Has been for some time.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:28 am to LSUTANGERINE
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:39 am to Kraut Dawg
The current holy grail of government contracting is to be an Alaskan native who is a disabled veteran. They bid competitively and they win. Period.
My wife is the majority owner of our company. It ticks two boxes as she is also part Cuban. Woman and minority owned carries some weight. We'll eventually get our 8a status if government contracting is something we pursue. Right now commercial business keeps us pretty busy but we are starting to subcontract for some government contractors.
My wife is the majority owner of our company. It ticks two boxes as she is also part Cuban. Woman and minority owned carries some weight. We'll eventually get our 8a status if government contracting is something we pursue. Right now commercial business keeps us pretty busy but we are starting to subcontract for some government contractors.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:42 am to stout
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Being a single black mom absolutely helps her.
How? Do they get food stamps too? I normally just structure the business's operating agreement to give the minority/woman "control" as defined under the la so that they can qualify for the preferential treatment.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:44 am to LSUTANGERINE
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even though more whites are on welfare, unemployed, and lack education?
This isn't a sheer numbers argument, though. There are way more whites in the USA so of course there will be more whites on welfare. The only way to truly gauge it is to look at what percentages of a race is on welfare.
Care to guess who wins that?
IIRC nearly 1/3rd of blacks were on welfare while only like 6% or something of white people were.
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:44 am to mikelbr
Yes. His stuff is pretty amazing to read(not saying I agree with him). I first started following him during his debacle with kip a few months ago.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:47 am to Mo Jeaux
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How?
They are dealing with HUD, Fannie Mae, FHA, etc agreements. Don't get me to lying about it because he explained it to me a while back and I only half way paid attention but he claims it absolutely makes a difference.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:09 am to Hugo Stiglitz
In a previous life I was a government contractor in DC... I worked for a "Minority Owned" small consulting firm... Moreover, we had other small business certifications... at one point, we had 8(a), HUBZONE, and SBVOB... the eligibility for RPF's we had was insane... we would just print money.
Then 8(a) ended and HUBZONE did what it was supposed to do and the area flourished and they removed the identifier...
I don't know what any of you know about the world of Government Contracting, but it's super cutthroat and small businesses need all the entitlement they can get... Companies like Booz, Deloitte, etc. will take a loss on the engagement just to build the relationship with the agency.
I don't miss that life for one second.
Then 8(a) ended and HUBZONE did what it was supposed to do and the area flourished and they removed the identifier...
I don't know what any of you know about the world of Government Contracting, but it's super cutthroat and small businesses need all the entitlement they can get... Companies like Booz, Deloitte, etc. will take a loss on the engagement just to build the relationship with the agency.
I don't miss that life for one second.
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