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re: Post WW2 What-if Scenario

Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:01 am to
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1308 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:01 am to
Would have been a lot of dead americans. The red army soldiers were tough as frick.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6213 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:08 am to
The Soviets had an overwhelming advantage in manpower and equipment. The USA was out if atomic weapons and the Soviets hd all of the research needed tk develop the bomb.

Read Allies at War by Tim Bouverie. Great analysis of the negotiations and power balance between the USA, UK, and the Soviets. As a bonus, you’ll also find out that Churchill had wine with breakfast.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13594 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:16 am to
USSR had plenty of land to trade while eating up US troops.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10678 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I've often wondered if America should not have helped the USSR and instead let the Nazi anaconda try to swallow the Soviet elephant.

The Roosevelt administration had a lot of Communist sympathizers including his wife.


I’ve wondered this also. The German war machine was so strong it took a conglomerate of nations and a two front war to stop it and even then it took years to finally capitulate them. American industry titans of the day had several Nazi sympathizers as well. Not supporters but people like Henry Ford who admired German industry, ingenuity, engineering, technology, etc.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1677 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:35 am to
The US had enough on its plate with rebuilding Western Europe via the Marshall Plan. I think the last thing they wanted to do was to rebuild all the way to the Soviet border, let alone continue the worst war in history.

As such, I think they were hoping that Stalin acted in good faith at the Potsdam Conference. Instead, communist regimes were installed in every country that were within the Soviet zone.

To get back to the question, I doubt the Americans had the wherewithal to sustain a major offensive and occupation of western Russia.


Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9029 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:39 am to
I wonder what octane of fuel the soviets were producing compared to America?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69143 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:20 am to
But in 1945, they already had our trucks. Our trucks don’t disappear as soon as we declare war.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38490 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:21 am to
How about the spare parts? Tires? Grease to lube them?
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:25 am to
I'm not sure I'd say the USSR were weak after Berlin fell. In fact, I'd say they had achieved a full on mobilization and geared their entire state for war. They had just defeated the Germans on the Eastern Front. I'm not of the persuasion that the USSR won WWII in Europe but they were fighting the bulk of the Germans for a long time on the largest land front of the war.

I think the argument was that we were at the peak of our strength and would be able to grow even more in regards to generating men and material. Political will was strong and if we could keep that we would have been in the best place for an all out war in 1945.

I'm not sure it would have gone so well, but we'd had a shot. 10 years later it was MAD and the Cold War, which in hindsight was probably a better war to fight than a hot war.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111819 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:34 am to
quote:

The Soviets had more troops in Europe than we did and a shorter supply line. P


True, but we were the supply line
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54535 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:52 am to
Another "What If" Hitler, doesn't declare war on the US?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41562 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:41 am to
Say we best Russia then what?

What do we do with it? What’s our exit plan?
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