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Post flood follow up: Anyone have mold despite their remediation efforts?

Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:39 am
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:39 am
Has anyone seen or heard about people having mold growth in their homes or get sick even though they had gutted and sprayed? Not talking about neglected homes, I have seen quite a few of those with mold.

I spoke with two inspectors and they hadn't had any positive air samples from homes that were gutted.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:40 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184582 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:41 am to
Did they change the duct work too?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Anyone have mold despite their remediation efforts?

I fear there's a lot of people who do and have no clue yet, but will find out in the next couple of months.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52637 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:47 am to
Just a reminder, there are thousands of kinds of mold.

Only about ten can hurt you.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
4006 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Did they change the duct work too?


Unless the flood water got high enough to get into the duct work there is no reason to change it out. If mold is present in the duct work it probably isn't due to the flooding, it's due to being in south louisiana.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184582 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Unless the flood water got high enough to get into the duct work there is no reason to change it out.


Mold spores aren't stagnant and move. If the A/C was ran while mold spores were in the house then there is a chance some mold spores could have made their way into the ducts.

quote:

If mold is present in the duct work it probably isn't due to the flooding, it's due to being in south louisiana


I was also getting to this point.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:54 am to
A mold outbreak can be circulated to the ducts, but fogging the ducts could resolve it.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

fear there's a lot of people who do and have no clue yet, but will find out in the next couple of months.


It's been 10 months, what would change in the next few months?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184582 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:57 am to
quote:

what would change in the next few months?



I think he means more heat causing faster/more growth.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

It's been 10 months, what would change in the next few months?

The first prolonged stretch of hot, humid weather since the remediation and rebuild of many of those properties.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72802 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:08 am to
Yea, there's probably more houses with mold in some shape or form than without it around here and the flood probably had nothing to do with most.

Going to make selling houses a bitch for some people.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15176 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:10 am to
just because the dwelling was sprayed and certified mold free, mold can then get back in for a number of reasons.

Also, everyone has mold in their houses. when an industrial hygienist samples air in a building, the should also sample the air outside. you should not see a condition where air inside has a higher count of spores then the air outside. but you should see spores as all air contains spores.

the construction process could put the dwelling under risk of re-contamination. mold needs (3) things to grow. Moisture, darkness, and food source. If the building was not fully dried out, and the moisture content of the studs or other wood products was too high, mold can reform. If insulation that was wet inside of walls was not fully removed, mold can form again. If the A/C was running while mold was in the house, the ductwork could be contaminated and now spreading spores through the house.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:14 am to
If you opt out ripping up that old ceramic tile you will prob have mold problems.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15176 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

If you opt out ripping up that old ceramic tile you will prob have mold problems.


ceramic tile/grout is not an organic, so is not a food source. if you let it properly dry out that will not be a mold source. However, i highly recommend replacing, as the grout is porous, and since flood water is not "clean" water, then no telling what vile crap is in there.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46423 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:25 am to
Mold spores are in the air in South Louisiana almost all the time. Mold will only spread when the condition is favorable for it to grow. It doesn't grow on towels hanging on hooks in the bathroom, but take a wet towel put it in the ball and throw it in a closet and odd are, 2 weeks later there will be mold. With that being said, HVAC systems with poor insulation will have condensation which will allow fungal growth to grow. Mold isn't going to start growing anywhere there isn't sufficient moisture
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:28 am to
I've read that growth efficiency is different with each type of mold, some prefer to grow in cold temperatures like your refrigerator. And when looking at the toxic spores, the release of their toxins are most efficient at different temperatures depending on the type of mold. Some release most toxins at 59°F.

So I'm not certain the warm summer months will advance the growth, but the humidity will if it's not controlled in the house.

Stachbotrys one of the most feared molds requires 93% humidity at 77°F
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15176 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:40 am to
Ideal humidity for a dwelling is between 50-60%. moisture will only be taken out of the air with a desiccant humidifier or with the HVAC unit running
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