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re: Port NOLA moves forward with land acquisition for St. Bernard Parish cargo terminal

Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:27 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54822 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:27 am to
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No one has come out and said anything about the infrastructure which needs to be built


Probably because everyone agrees that will be in the form of a new Florida Av expressway

What down the road is more worried about is that rerouting St Bernard Highway will reduce their business traffic, but there really isn’t much business down there to begin with, other than places like the Green Store, Cuda’s, and Casanovas Seafood. Basically, everyone on St B Highway from Colonial to Sugar Mill will be affected, and the East Bank of Plaquemines
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89795 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:27 am to
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of the pre-Katrina residents have dispersed across the US


Lol, they moved to slidell.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:27 am to
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That would be awesome. Maybe add an access road for trucks to connect to Paris without upsetting the natural suburban beauty of Chalmette


The Florida Avenue Expressway plan is still in a binder somewhere.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27429 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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form of a new Florida Av expressway


great, how much does it cost? when does construction start? how will this help traffic?

the only concrete plan is the port is going ahead (like the airport) and we'll figure out the rest (infrastructure) later.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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That said, I think the port in The Parish is a great idea because it is downriver of the city and has decent interstate access and rail access. If it was on the westbank truck traffic through the city and on the CCC bridge would skyrocket.


They'd need to majorly upgrade 90 and 3127 for something around Chalmette to work.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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The people of St. Bernard did not vote for Edwards and now his cronies come in a take over part of the parish


Oof.

2019 runoff JBE had 54% of the vote over Rispone.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78409 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:31 am to
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Maybe add an access road for trucks to connect to Paris without upsetting the natural suburban beauty of Chalmette.


Sounds like a good place to add another 24hr donut shop.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:31 am to
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Probably because everyone agrees that will be in the form of a new Florida Av expressway



I don't think they need to go that far. Just a two lane access road for trucks to get to Paris Ave. Don't put any exits anywhere in between. Hell make it trucks only like some of the roads around Port of Long Beach.

This port is going to be doing a bunch of transfers onto barges and rail. It's not going to generate a massive, unbearable amount of truck traffic like some other container ports.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2756 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:32 am to
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Port NOLA has failed at the PR game big time. True or not it the optics make it look like the port is trying to cram this down the throats of the residents of St. Bernard.


Last year I spoke to folks involved with this project, they really thought they would be doing significant construction on-site by mid-2022. I always thought it could take a decade to get all of the approvals with opponents fighting every single step of the way and probably a LA Supreme Court decision or two. The State/Port will eventually win (unless a governor is elected that wants to shut down the project), but it will be a long, messy and EXPENSIVE fight.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54822 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:35 am to
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I don't think they need to go that far. Just a two lane access road for trucks to get to Paris Ave. Don't put any exits anywhere.


1. HURRICANE EVACUATION

2. Judge Perez is starting to get clogged at rush hour now

3. HURRICANE EVACUATION

I hope it will be our version of Earhart expressway that connects to Paris Road and eventually I-10 in the city
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78409 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:35 am to
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unless a governor is elected that wants to shut down the project


Nungesser has some land he wants to sell em
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:37 am to
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We need jobs that will bring the Katrina diaspora back


That’s never going to happen. Those people are scattered and settled down in other places now.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:40 am to
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other than places like the Green Store, Cuda’s, and Casanovas Seafood


St B Hwy is proposed to be bowed north... not eliminated. It might take a few more minutes to work around the bow.

But let's be real... very few people are just cruising down that stretch of road. Hardly anyone just happens upon the Green store... they have a purpose to go there and will still go there even if it takes a couple of min longer.

Or Farmsite Rd ends up seeing more traffic.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:41 am to
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unds like a good place to add another 24hr donut shop.


In the SOS group someone was ranting about a certain parish council member who owns donut shops being supportive of the port because truck drivers will stop at his donut shop.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54822 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:44 am to
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very few people are just cruising down that stretch of road. Hardly anyone just happens upon the Green store...


And if they go down Judge Perez they never see it. That’s the problem.

That bow north will be unacceptable to a lot of people who question if we really need it
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:45 am to
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And if they go down Judge Perez they never see it. That’s the problem.


But they aren't just rolling down the road now anyways. No one is taking a romantic Sunday drive down there lol

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That bow north will be unacceptable to a lot of people who question if we really need it


But those people who will say we don't need it are the same people who say we don't need the port.

It's one more reason for them to be against the port.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38910 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:48 am to
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2019 runoff JBE had 54% of the vote over Rispone.


Oof.

Now try when he was actually elected, because no one in their right mind was voting for Phony Rispone.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:48 am to
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Judge Perez is starting to get clogged at rush hour now


St. Bernard is still down about almost 40% from its high water mark around the year 2000. So I doubt it's anywhere near as bad as it was then.

quote:


I hope it will be our version of Earhart expressway that connects to Paris Road and eventually I-10 in the city

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HURRICANE EVACUATION


You want a multi-billion dollar freeway so they can evacuate shipping containers?
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:49 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:49 am to
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That’s never going to happen. Those people are scattered and settled down in other places now.


Right. I think our good schools, safe community, and relative low housing prices will result in a continued slow growth of the population. But it will take a long time to get back to that number, if we ever do, and it's different people who are moving here now. The people who left 16-17 years ago aren't coming back.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41061 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:51 am to
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Now try when he was actually elected, because no one in their right mind was voting for Phony Rispone.



oof.

2015 election runoff...

JBE 56%

Vitter 44%
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