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re: Polygamy.....what's your opinion?

Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Yes they are independent but what's the basis of those laws? Morality.


No. Science. Incest causing mental disease and birth defects.

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The same is true for incest.

wrong.

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once it becomes the law of the land, we've opened up a Pandora's Box of all sorts of possibilities when it comes to the definition of marriage.

Consenting adults choosing to share their life, bank accounts, insurance, assets, and children shouldn't be illegal. But rewarding them for doing so shouldn't happen either.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:38 pm to
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What if a woman has more than one husband?


That's called polyandry & they are good with it.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:42 pm to
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But you cant allow same sex parents and children to wed because it will cause birth defects.


Being married doesn't ensure offspring and not being married of doesn't ensure no offspring. The two are being less related everyday.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:43 pm to
I would love to have five or six of them. Put them all to work
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Being married doesn't ensure offspring


No, but it does legally sanction, encourage, and support it.

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not being married of doesn't ensure no offspring.

this has nothing to do with the conversation.
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Just wait it's coming. Once the gay marriage issue is finally done, there will be virtually no limit on who can marry short of perhaps age of consent. Just about any outlandish union you can think of will be possible. For example if a mom wants to marry her grown daughter, what's the argument to stop them? Hell, if she wants to marry multiple offspring, both sons & daughters, there will be no valid argument left to stand in their way. Basically marriage will be whatever the people in each marriage want it to be with almost limit on the possibilities of what that will entail.



"How long until someone hauls off and marries a damn paint can!?"
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:47 pm to
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Posted by tylercsbn9 Like gay marriage, there is zero legit reason it should be illegal.


Also like gay marriage, it's not really illegal.

If you want the state to treat your polygamous relationship the same way it treats other marriages, then (for now) you are out of luck. That doesn't mean you and three women can't be "married."

Like most gay marriage advocates, you speak about the topic in a confused manner.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:47 pm to
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"How long until someone hauls off and marries a damn paint can!?"

What color paint?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:48 pm to
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How long until someone hauls off and marries a damn paint can!?"



oil or water based?
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:49 pm to
I wish it was pronounced differently
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Consenting adults choosing to share their life, bank accounts, insurance, assets, and children shouldn't be illegal.


The same arguments will be made for all the different types of marriage that will be seen going forward. I'm not not trying to argue against gay marriage or for it. All I'm doing is pointing out that once marriage can no longer be legally defined only as being a union between one man and one woman, other than age of consent (which can and does change btw), there is really no limit on what it can be. Eventually you'll have things like a marriage between 3 men or 3 women, or between one man and any number of women or the other way around. And yes, I have no doubt eventually you'll even have relatives demanding their right to marry whomever they want.
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:54 pm to
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there is really no limit on what it can be. Eventually you'll have things like a marriage between 3 men or 3 women, or between one man and any number of women or the other way around.


What about a couple dudes haulin' off and marrying a few paint cans?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
64987 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:59 pm to
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What about a couple dudes haulin' off and marrying a few paint cans?



It's not any less stupid than the first time you posted it.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24490 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:00 pm to
Anybody have any legit numbers on how often incest leads to birth defects? I'm guessing it's no higher than using alcohol during pregnancy, but that's not illegal.

Free Incest!!!
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6412 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Just about any outlandish union you can think of will be possible. For example if a mom wants to marry her grown daughter, what's the argument to stop them?


That's a straw-man argument. The crux of support for gay marriage isn't morality, it's spousal rights. And most every spousal right is legally provided to parent-child relationships.

You(universal you) have the right to visit your parent in the hospital. If they die, you have rights to inheritance. Sure, you don't have access to their health insurance. But that's about the only spousal right that a child over 26 doesn't have.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:02 pm to
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That's a straw-man argument. The crux of support for gay marriage isn't morality, it's spousal rights


90% of the people that support gay marriages do so because they should be allowed to marry who they choose. Not because of spousal rights. That's where civil unions come in.

90% is just a number I threw out due to anecdotal evidence, btw.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:05 pm to
Because the govt actually knows what's best for you in this case. Multiple wives may sound like lots of sex and fun, but you're probably more likely to kill your whole family than enjoy your polygamous lifestyle
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64987 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:07 pm to
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90% of the people that support gay marriages do so because they should be allowed to marry who they choose. Not because of spousal rights. That's where civil unions come in.




Exactly. But i think many here are missing the point and getting hung up on the incest example. The main point, once again, is that now that marriage is no longer legally limited to one man and one woman, there is nothing to prevent it from being defined in any number of new ways from two men, two women, or one man and ten women or any other combinations, including ones that entail relatives marrying one another. I'm not saying it's "right" or "wrong", only that this will be the nature of marriage going forward.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm guessing it's no higher than using alcohol during pregnancy, but that's not illegal.


Yes it is.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24490 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm not saying it's "right" or "wrong", only that this will be the nature of marriage going forward.


I agree with you.
Again, I'm willing to bet that the rate of birth defects are as high or higher in AMA pregnancies, alcoholic pregnancies, etc., but no one is advocating banning that. I can't believe these people don't want to change the laws to allow 2 consenting adults to marry, i.e. father and son.
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