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re: Police Work To Stop Overdoses After 76 People Fall Ill To Synthetic Marijuana
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:42 pm to BurningHeart
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:42 pm to BurningHeart
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I know. Point is that people don't avoid drinking on the job because they might be tested. They don't drink on the job because it's obvious to visualize and risky. Same with marijuana.
You still get tested for both in a lot of situations if you're involved in a serious on the job accident. The employer is not exposed to extra risk if it's a Monday and you had a few beers Saturday night, because that no longer shows up. They're screwed if you smoked a bowl then, though.
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:45 pm to whodidthat
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People like weed. I know doctors, lawyers, and people from all walks of life who smoke.
Ding ding ding
Non users think marijuana is only for trashy teens and hippie burnouts, which is far from the truth.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:51 pm to sta4ever
quote:I didn't see or hear of anybody OD'ing on Spice in Oregon. You just walk into a shop and get what you need for cheap. It's just a well defined plant with plenty of legit uses and the gov should get the hell out of the way.
Another reason why marijuana should be legal. Can’t OD on it and it will stop people from smoking and doing dangerous drugs like synthetic pot and stuff
PS. I dont even smoke, bu the oil did wonders for th healing of a broken foot of a friend.
[/img]Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:59 pm to Theboot32
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have no idea why they call it synthetic marijuana... it has nothing to do with MJ, just gives it a bad name, it's just some chemicals and shite
The history is actually fairly cool. John William Huffman couldn't study THC because of its scheduled status, so he created analogues (one-off) molecules so they could be studied, because they weren't explicitly illegal.
They're considered "synthetic cannabinoids" (THC also being a cannabinoid. I believe the typical marijuana plant has something on the order of about 60 or so different cannabinoids, THC being one of the most prevalent and studied ones, serving as the model for the rest from a bio/pharmaceutical standpoint) because things tend to be named for the receptors they act on- they still are hitting the same receptors as THC in the body, just with significantly different intensity and length of binding/action. It's definitely a fair comparison based on how drugs act in the body- they're based in pharmaceutical research.
It's horseshite to consider them comparable from an "overall effects" standpoint.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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You still get tested for both in a lot of situations if you're involved in a serious on the job accident. The employer is not exposed to extra risk if it's a Monday and you had a few beers Saturday night, because that no longer shows up. They're screwed if you smoked a bowl then, though.
The issue is not so much the tests themselves, it is the threshold used at 50 ng/ml.
If they really cared about catching someone high on the job, they'd triple the minimum threshold or perform a blood test.
Instead, a urine test is done which is totally inaccurate with regards to someone currently high on THC vs someone who consumed a weekend ago.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:04 pm to HempHead
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Pretty sure it's not. Under the CSA, analogues are banned as well. Seedy arse head shops just DGAF.
They tend to skirt the law by selling it as incense in a packet marked "not for human consumption," so it tends to avoid scrutiny from FDA and whatever other health department screening may be present at a state/local level.
I believe a law was passed in LA sometime around 2014 banning anything that had a semblence to a cannabinoid, synthetic or not. I believe (not positive) the compounds are still illegal, even when sold as incense. I think it's just difficult to find/regulate unregulated things until they cause a small epidemic like this.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:12 pm to OysterPoBoy
Your ignorance of marijuana while not surprising is sad
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:18 am to HempHead
When I started smoking pot I would smoke this thing called “scooby snax” with some friends and it didn’t seem so bad. Certainly not on the levels of k2. I wonder what it was, and why it didn’t seem as bad. I did it all the time and never had seizures or anything
....but maybe i’d have never dropped out if I stayed away from the devils syntheic lettuce
....but maybe i’d have never dropped out if I stayed away from the devils syntheic lettuce
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 12:19 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:32 am to Collegedropout
IN MY DAY, scooby snacks were the embers/burnt portions of bud that flew from the bowl chamber in to your mouth. 
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:35 am to BurningHeart
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The issue is not so much the tests themselves, it is the threshold used at 50 ng/ml.
If they really cared about catching someone high on the job, they'd triple the minimum threshold or perform a blood test.
Instead, a urine test is done which is totally inaccurate with regards to someone currently high on THC vs someone who consumed a weekend ago.
it's simpler than that... you should cut out testing for metabolites period. fact is if you're clean, as in no metabolites in your system, you could get high as frick and still pass a drug test while stoned out of your mind.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:30 am to deltaland
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You can’t OD on real marijuana
That’s not true. You absolutely can. First time I ever smoked it I rolled 3 joints back to back and smoked them not knowing what a normal dosage should be. Thought it was like beer and the more I consume the better it will feel. I later became very intoxicated to the point of vomiting. A clear indication of an overdose
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:35 am to BurningHeart
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Another instance of the government putting people's health at risk because the government tells you that you can't consume REAL marijuana.
Even the fake stuff wasn’t that bad for you to begin with but they keep banning the newest one so drug maker produce slightly different compounds to stay a head of the government.
It didn’t take long to have some fricked combos out there.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:36 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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That’s not true. You absolutely can. First time I ever smoked it I rolled 3 joints back to back and smoked them not knowing what a normal dosage should be. Thought it was like beer and the more I consume the better it will feel. I later became very intoxicated to the point of vomiting. A clear indication of an overdose
You can get sick, sure. But I think he meant die or get seriously ill from MJ.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:38 am to Dire Wolf
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Even the fake stuff wasn’t that bad for you to begin with but they keep banning the newest one so drug maker produce slightly different compounds to stay a head of the government. It didn’t take long to have some fricked combos out there.
This.
The drug scene nowadays is littered with these analogues of banned drugs. It's to the point where the real drugs are actually better for you than what's "legal"
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:52 am to BurningHeart
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Both can be used responsibly, yet people have been brainwashed for decades that marijuana is bad and drinking is okay.
It is those lobbyist dollars at work. Also, throughout the time it has been around the largest contributors to the Partnership for a Drug Free America have been the alcohol and tobacco companies. They don't want the competition.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:08 am to DannyB
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It is those lobbyist dollars at work. Also, throughout the time it has been around the largest contributors to the Partnership for a Drug Free America have been the alcohol and tobacco companies. They don't want the competition
This is spot on.
If MJ were legal, people would flock over to it in trade for alcohol.
A shame because alcohol is a lot worse for you.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:12 am to OweO
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Police Work To Stop Overdoses
The way to stop it is to make the real shite legal. Duh.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:49 am to OweO
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Police Work To Stop Overdoses After 76 People Fall Ill To Synthetic Marijuana by OweO
No need for them to work. Let natural selection take its course.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 8:42 am to OysterPoBoy
So don't buy synthetic motor oil.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 9:40 am to OweO
For 20 years of my life (gave it all up 10+ yrs ago), I smoke ALOT of weed. Smoked it, sold it...
I tried that synthetic when it first came out way back. It was horrible. Nothing close to the relaxing, peaceful high from weed. I can't understand why people like that shite. It made me nervous and schitzed out. Hated it.
I tried that synthetic when it first came out way back. It was horrible. Nothing close to the relaxing, peaceful high from weed. I can't understand why people like that shite. It made me nervous and schitzed out. Hated it.
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