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re: Police shoot man in Fresno... bodycam footage
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:08 pm to tduecen
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:08 pm to tduecen
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Noble's mother and attorney said in a claim filed with the city that the officers used excessive force, and they called the death inexcusable. The claim does not say how much Nelson seeks from the city.
Of course she is.
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Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:08 pm to tduecen
I can't believe the second cop fired the last round. I would have been like, this is all you, partner.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:08 pm to slackster
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Where did I say that?
Me:Does the cops' actions after he was non-compliant matter?
You: Yes
This is Darth level dumb. That is not the question I asked you in case you couldn't figure that out.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:08 pm to Salmon
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like I said, this is quite easy to say after the fact from a computer 3,000 miles away
It is, but in this case the cops were wrong. That has to matter.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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How's what I'm doing any different that what you're doing from your computer 3,000 miles away?
you stating that he clearly wasn't a threat and me stating that you don't know that are the same?
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:09 pm to slackster
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but in this case the cops were wrong.
Link?
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:10 pm to slackster
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It is, but in this case the cops were wrong. That has to matter.
not in this case, not with how this guy was acting
everything about how he was acting says he is a threat and is armed
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:10 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's incredibly different. You are claiming to clearly see things, while Salmon isn't.
He seems quite certain of his opinion to me. As do you.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:11 pm to slackster
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It is, but in this case the cops were wrong. That has to matter.
huh? I haven't seen the final investigation report yet? have you? While it is a big part, it is still only one portion of the entire investigation.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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He seems quite certain of his opinion to me. As do you.
Our opinion that it's not clear? Damn right we are certain.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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He seems quite certain of his opinion to me. As do you.
my opinion that no one can state that he "clearly wasn't a threat"?
hell yeah I'm quite certain of that
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:12 pm to baldona
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The guy didn't listen when: He had at least 3 guns on him He was shot twice He was shot a third time in the ground
You cannot conceivably blame him for his actions after he was shot twice in the gut. Come on people.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:13 pm to slackster
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You cannot conceivably blame him for his actions after he was shot twice in the gut.
Yea, no such thing as an adrenaline spike of fight or flight kicking in. Those aren't real things.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:15 pm to LurkingTigers
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huh? I haven't seen the final investigation report yet? have you? While it is a big part, it is still only one portion of the entire investigation.
I'm saying they were wrong because he was unarmed. I'm saying that has to matter at some point. 10% of fatal police shootings in 2015 were unarmed. 93 people.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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Our opinion that it's not clear? Damn right we are certain.
You and he have spent page after page in here arguing with anyone who questions the cops shooing him after he was down. Not even once have either of you come close to admitting the shots on the ground were remotely questionable. At every turn you've argued in favor of the cops shooing him after he was down.
But now you want to claim that you're saying it's not clear? Dont piss on my leg and try telling me it's raining.
This post was edited on 7/14/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
What happened to non lethal in most cases especially when you have a partner? They tased the guy here in BR and his relentless nature continued making his shooting easily justified. While this guy was asking for it, we shouldn't accept the continued policy of shoot first and sort it out later.
Its a tough call.. I dont think these cops wasnted to kill the guy, I dont think they should be jailed but they do not need to be officers anymore. The training and protocols many receive need to be re-visited because the general policies seems to be that of an occupied zone.
Its a tough call.. I dont think these cops wasnted to kill the guy, I dont think they should be jailed but they do not need to be officers anymore. The training and protocols many receive need to be re-visited because the general policies seems to be that of an occupied zone.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:16 pm to slackster
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10% of fatal police shootings in 2015 were unarmed. 93 people.
Unarmed doesn't make you not dangerous. Did I really have to tell you that?
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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Yea, no such thing as an adrenaline spike of fight or flight kicking in. Those aren't real things.
What does that have to do with the video in this specific circumstance?
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:18 pm to Salmon
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my opinion that no one can state that he "clearly wasn't a threat"?
hell yeah I'm quite certain of that
No, your opinion that the cops were justified for shooing him after he was down.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 2:18 pm to Darth_Vader
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You and he have spent page after page im here arguing with anyone who questions the cops shooing him after he was down.
Actually that's not what we've done, but you'eve already shown that you can't follow a conversation if your life depended on it.
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Not even once have either of you come close to admitting the shots on the ground were remotely questionable.
No, but we also haven't said it is clear what they are one way or the other either.
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At every turn you've argued in favor of the cops shooing him after he was down.
Until better evidence is presented, I side with the cops.
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But now you want to claim that you're saying it's not clear?
I've said nothing to oppose that.
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Dont piss on my leg and try telling me it's raining.
you wouldn't know the difference anyway.
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