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re: Police go to wrong address, kill homeowner in the middle of the night

Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:57 pm to
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was speaking specifically about Darth in this instance. I've never noticed you to be a hypocrite FWIW


I do my best to stay on message, even if it means consistently clashing .
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72122 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:58 pm to
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LNCHBOX


so you honestly think these cops saw this homeowner, identified themselves as police, instructed him to drop his weapon and this homeowner just decided "frick it, I'm not going to do what they tell me. No, I'm going to go out in a blaze of glory"?

You are without a doubt the most stupid, worthless, dipshit to ever infest this site.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:59 pm to
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how many officers on the streets are not capable of make the correct decision when put in a stressed moment?


Unfortunately that's a number that's becoming easier to figure out.
Posted by kfaulk03
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
1494 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:00 pm to
In most developed countries cops aren't given carte blanche to fire their guns and this simple mistake would have resulted in someone getting woken up at a late hour and not shot dead. Why is it that we allow cops to shoot their guns so wantonly. As if their precinct is some gdmn arcade game
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:00 pm to
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You are without a doubt the most stupid, worthless, dipshit to ever infest this site.




Always nice to know you have nothing when you resort to namecalling. Keep on keeping on.

Pretty easy to tell which one of you is educated between you and NYNola.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72122 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:01 pm to
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Always nice to know you have nothing when you resort to namecalling. Keep on keeping on.


Says the guy who started off by calling me a hypocrite.

What an idiot.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:02 pm to
Pointing out that you're a hypocrite is completely different than stringing together the petty bullshite that you always resort to.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72122 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:04 pm to
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Pointing out that you're a hypocrite is completely different than stringing together the petty bullshite that you always resort to.



I'm sure it is different in your Stupidity addled little mind.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:08 pm to
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Why is it that we allow cops to shoot their guns so wantonly. As if their precinct is some gdmn arcade game


Because there's a whole generation of people that were raised to comply with the good guys, and if the good guys shot someone, they were obviously doing something bad.

I do think that we've reached an inflection point in that regard. I just read a fascinating article about a law professor and his students attitudes toward LEO.

quote:


When Law Students Distrust the Police

I’ve noticed something interesting this year: A growing number of my students don’t seem to trust the police very much.

Let me explain. I am in the middle of grading the final exams from my course on the law of evidence. A handful of rules turn on whether a party to a lawsuit has acted in good faith. In the past, when my exam has included questions drawing on these rules, nearly everyone in the class has quite properly written on-the-one-hand-on-the-other-hand answers.

This year things are different. For the first time, a significant subset of my students seems to be assuming that the police are at fault. If a piece of evidence in a criminal trial goes missing, it’s because of police misconduct. One of my exam questions involved a videotape that disappeared. The question of whether an officer can testify to its contents depends at least in part on whether the tape was lost in bad faith. I have used versions of this question for years. This spring was the first time that so many students -- I would say as many as 1 out of 4 -- simply assumed that the police had acted wrongly.




Bloomberg
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:14 pm to
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According to police, Powell ignored orders to put down his handgun. One of the officers then fired at the homeowner, who had just emerged from his garage.


100% chance this claim is complete bullshite. And easy to make when the guy isn't alive to dispute it.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:17 pm to
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but how many officers on the streets are not capable of make the correct decision when put in a stressed moment?

It would be easier to count the number who are capable.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17125 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:24 pm to
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According to police, Powell ignored orders to put down his handgun.


As he should have. His home was being unlawfully invaded. Make no mistake about about it, seeing as though the police had no warrant and no legal right to be there, this was in fact a home invasion.

The innocent man had no way of knowing if this was a group of crack heads invading his home saying they were cops or legitimate cops.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21186 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:28 pm to
Cops had no legal right to trespass on HIS property but he did have the legal right to protect his property.

Cops in the wrong here
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:33 pm to
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As he should have. His home was being unlawfully invaded. Make no mistake about about it, seeing as though the police had no warrant and no legal right to be there, this was in fact a home invasion.


As much as I agree with you, I doubt that's how it plays out in court. No eyewitness testimony and a friendly DA that doesn't want to charge you goes a long way to having a long and prosperous LEO career.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17125 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 5:45 pm to
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As much as I agree with you, I doubt that's how it plays out in court.


Oh I know that. But technically that is what happened IMO.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:06 pm to
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90% of cops are fricking worthless
90% of cops also finished in the bottom 30% of their graduating classes. There is a related reason to why cops acts stupidly very often.
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32462 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:10 pm to
Somebody bout to get PAID
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:12 pm to
This happens every day I promise you. Every day somewhere in America they bust down door to wrong house. I had a client in Mississippi who was 80 year old women they broke in like it was an ISIS raid threw her into a wall, she had broken ribs and suffered a heart attack. The address they were supposed to go too was 617 Maple, this was 617 Oak.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:48 pm to
Seems as if he had walked out to find some cruisers with lights flashing and then heard proper warnings he may have reacted properly. If they were slipping around in the dark trying to pull an ambush then the guy may not have known what to think. The actions of the police involved definitely deserves careful scrutiny, doesn't seem like murder but maybe the chief trained them poorly. The victim is gone due to some form of negligence and that is sad. I doubt the justice system would allow a private citizen to skate on a scenario such as this.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79118 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:52 pm to
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Georgia Bureau of Investigation. It might go by a different name.


Yep. The state typically investigates an officer involved shooting. The local yokels have a conflict of interest.
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