Poland's new tank...are we dumb now?

Naw, Poland only has about 100 Leopard tanks and a reserve of combloc junk. The Abrams is still the king of the hill and we can field thousands. We have similar/better concepts and the actually ability to manufacture them.

All in all, I hope Poland fields something new or at least purchases more Leopards as they are the new front line against the Russian threat, Cold War aint over. You can thank a weak administration for making that clear.

Its also time for the European nations to defend themselves anyway. The US has spent the time and money doing so since 1945. Unfortunately the EU has descended into socialist paradise and their military strength is weak.

Also, the US uses the Depleted Uranium round while the EU said no due to PC issues. Hell, when it comes time to do battle I think I want the most potent tool in the box.

They still can't screw in a lightbulb

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The birds may quit flying upside down over Poland now since there is something worth shiting on.

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Poland has some cool toys, they just need more.

Polish f16 with all the extra goodies.

Polish PT91, and ungraded t72 combloc turd..

Tldr

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Obama should've declared war and sent you or your son over there huh? No, bc then you'd bitch that he's acting like a war mongering king.

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Well, that is a bit ignorant and hysterical. Removing the Euro missile defenses was a bad move along with many other action that were seen as weak. You can prevent war and aggression with strength. Most of our leaders understand this, you and our current administration obviously do not.

Right, because Poland has always been the world leader in military might.

1. It has an auto-loader. Two huge drawbacks to an auto-loader. (1) Auto-loaders are slower than human loaders. And (2) you cannot quickly switch between shell types when using an auto-loader. Auto-loaders use a carousel system where the ammo is stored in a circular component. Whatever round is next in the carousel is what you have to fire. This mean that if the next round coming up is a HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank)but you've got a MBT (main battle tank) in front of you, you will have to first fire that HEAT Round (which will do little to nothing to a MBT) while he on the other hand fires the correct round (APFSDS round) at you. What's worse, he will also be able to fire off a second round at you before you can get off your second shot... that's if you even survived his first shot.

2. It's weight. It's too light. It only weighs 30something tons. This tells me that while it's armor may be advanced, it's thin as shite. The ceramic armor they describe in the article is not light. It's heavy as shite. The Abrams that I served on had a lot of it and that's what makes the Abrams both so heavy and so hard to kill. Simply put, this thing will not be able to trade blows with things like a T-90, Leopard, or Abrams.

3. They do a lot of talking about active cammo and making it's infra-red signature. They even discuss how it takes measures to lower it's temperature. This is actually to try to lessen it's thermal signature. You see, modern MBT's use thermal sights. We even used thermal sights during daylight hours when I was a tanker. And while I'm sure they can somewhat lessen this thing's heat signature, they cannot eliminate it. That thing is still a big giant hunk of metal that will absorb the sun's thermal energy. And it does not have to be "hot" to be seen by the thermal sight's of a MBT. Even cool items like trees and shrubs show up quite nicely on the thermal sights that we had on the M1A1 back in the 90's.

4. Look at the tracks on that tank. Notice something? They're narrow. This means it will bog down in soft waterlogged ground. Considering where this tank will be deployed, this will be a huge issue. I'm surprised they have forgot the lessons the Germans learned back in WWII about narrow tracks when their tanks fought over the very same ground this tank will see.

Another issue with the undercarriage is the guards over the road wheels. There appears no quick way to move them out of the way. This will prevent caked up mud and debris from working it's way free of the undercarriage. This will both speed up the wear on the undercarriage and make field repairs more difficult. It's quite common for tanks to throw tracks in the field. This thing will probably throw a lot of tracks due to shite being caught in the undercarriage. Even in the best circumstances it's a difficult repair. On the Abrams our side skirts were on hinges that we could open to access the tracks. On this tank, it looks almost impossible to do in the field.

Bottom line is this thing looks like it might be able to be used as a scout vehicle but it should not be used as the main battle tank of any army.

Conformal tank,s Advanced IFF, threat warning doghouse! Woohoo sweet, too bad it's a D-model.