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re: Plant guys- incident trends
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:50 am to drake76
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:50 am to drake76
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I think it's reasonable to expect more industrial accidents due to the high rate of retirement and the lack of quality employees in the workforce. Thoughts?
I can only tell you in my plant that new work procedures soon to be implemented are designed to account for more inexperienced operators. Which includes verifying safe conditions 4 different times before work begins. Aging piping is my greatest concern.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:54 am to Gaston
they most certainly do regulate government sites, but the federal government doesn't fine itself. OSHA has written numerous citations at the Air Force Base that my wife works at, and they had to partner with the OSHA Outreach Center at GA Tech to get them corrected.
Now they may not have a specific CFR that deals with certain functions of a Rocket, but just like with compressed gases they will defer to the Compressed Gas Association or NFPA for fire ratings for the rules and regulations.
Now they may not have a specific CFR that deals with certain functions of a Rocket, but just like with compressed gases they will defer to the Compressed Gas Association or NFPA for fire ratings for the rules and regulations.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 6:59 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:01 am to Enadious
Aging piping and infrastructure of plants are a concern across the board. We are repairing a gear reducer and had beam trolleys overhead to assist with lifting the cover. 1.5 ton cap and I had to write a lift plan for it. I asked them to bring an engineer over because I wanted to know how much the rust of the I-beam was affecting the load rating. They were not amused.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:06 am to Perrydawg
We've hired Ga Tech to come help with PSM courses and show us how to create binders, at a former job on government site, but only because we were asking for an OSHA audit. The director of the site, whether it be Air Force or NASA wants to comply, but there is no mandate to do such. I went to an Air Force site recently that wrote standards, albeit a long arse time ago, that mimic what you'd see on an OSHA site, but VERY key compliance details are missing.
They all try to comply, but not one site I've been to meets the letter of the CFR. It's good for business, I do very detailed analyses to show Code equivalence...at least they can meet the spirit of the regulations. They aren't mandated to do so however.
They all try to comply, but not one site I've been to meets the letter of the CFR. It's good for business, I do very detailed analyses to show Code equivalence...at least they can meet the spirit of the regulations. They aren't mandated to do so however.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:11 am to Four Leaf Tayback
This sounds very familiar..
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:59 am to drake76
The older work force in industry are the primary causes of incidents.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:03 am to Ed Osteen
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Safety is a higher priority right now than it’s ever been
Covering their asses is all that is. It's going to be that way and only get more so until safety starts cutting into the bottom line enough. They haven't reached that point yet.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:06 am to Popths
Industry has done everything then can to shift the responsibility for safety from themselves to their employees. It's cheaper to throw PPE at you than make intrinsically safe working environments.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:07 am to notiger1997
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Pretty sure most plants have a no cell phone policy in the units. It's pretty much something people can get fired for.
You def. can't drive around on property while using a phone.
Depends on if you're in-house or just a contractor. Two separate sets of standards, usually. If not in policy then at least in enforcement.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:21 am to drake76
I had an industrial accident this AM, plugged up the shitter....
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:24 am to PaperPaintball92
My Shop Has a zero tolerance policyn
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:30 am to drake76
Who wants to give me a job in here? I have great social skills, bust arse and I expect to get paid 70k a year for minimal work.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:35 am to drake76
I don’t think so. No one is in a hurry like they used to be in big industry. I think they implemented all of these procedures to slow the pace down. Unless the unit is shut down and the company is losing money, they don’t get in a hurry for anything. Hence, why most accidents happen during plant shutdown, and it’s always some tweaker looking to get on worker’s compensation anyway.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:20 am to drake76
I would be inclined to believe that trend except I work at a plant and know there are just as many old dumb asses as there are young dumb asses.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:26 am to Sayre
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quote:
Pretty sure most plants have a no cell phone policy in the units. It's pretty much something people can get fired for.
You def. can't drive around on property while using a phone.
Depends on if you're in-house or just a contractor. Two separate sets of standards, usually. If not in policy then at least in enforcement.
The 4 plants (4 different O&G companies) I worked in all had no cell phone policy in the units and when driving. Doesn’t matter if you or in-house or a contractor.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:52 am to JasonL79
They can create and enforce a no cell phone policy and lazy inattentive workers will just find a new way to be lazy and inattentive.
By all means though, blame these youngsters for being on the phone every time you wake up from a nap.
By all means though, blame these youngsters for being on the phone every time you wake up from a nap.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:15 am to Pepe Lepew
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I had an industrial accident this AM, plugged up the shitter....
Did your H2S alarm go off in the confined space of the bathroom
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:25 pm to notiger1997
Incidents, w/&w/o injuries, including reportable, and non reportable spills.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:40 pm to vjp819
I don't think the younger operators are more or less likely to get injured. They are however fricking idiots
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:49 pm to GregMaddux
quote:most of the older ones are idiots, as well
I don't think the younger operators are more or less likely to get injured. They are however fricking idiots
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