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Plant guys- incident trends
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:56 pm
I think it's reasonable to expect more industrial accidents due to the high rate of retirement and the lack of quality employees in the workforce. Thoughts?
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:58 pm to drake76
What high rate of retirement? Boomers are working forever. At least that's why millenials say they can't get jobs.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:58 pm to drake76
Truck nut ratio has been messed up too much
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:58 pm to drake76
Safety is a higher priority right now than it’s ever been
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:02 pm to Ed Osteen
It is, but if the operators/ craftsmen do not have the knowledge to do the job safely then it doesn't matter.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:02 pm to drake76
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:06 pm to drake76
Uh not necessarily. Lots of older workforce perform a lot of unsafe acts because of complacency and "we've always done it this way"
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:08 pm to drake76
People are being trained much more and the “old way” of doing things is quickly dying out. Not sure how you can turn that into a negative, if anything better trained and more safety conscious operators are entering the field
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:08 pm to drake76
It takes 3 hours to do a 5 minute job in a plant by the time you perform all the preventative safety procedures.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:10 pm to drake76
Ohhhhh I'm embarrassed
I thought you meant like growing green plants
I thought you meant like growing green plants
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:15 pm to drake76
So, I guess I'm the only one seeing inexperienced operators/ craftsmen that are screwing things up. lol
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:19 pm to Lugnut
If plants would implement a no cell phone in the plant policy, they would get a lot more out of the new people. Way too much time spent on cell phones and taking away from their attention spans needed to perform their jobs correctly. The new generation has no social skills. More Baby Boomers are staying longer. Many said they'd retire at 55 but are usually staying at least to 60 and some longer. Insurance costs is primarily the reason people are staying longer but I think lots don't want to be with their spouse 24/7 when they retire. They are in a comfortable rut. I hope to get out at age 59 in 2 years. I have 38 years now. I may leave earlier if the situation presents itself.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:24 pm to Popths
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f plants would implement a no cell phone in the plant policy, they would get a lot more out of the new people. Way too much time spent on cell phones and taking away from their attention spans needed to perform their jobs correctly
Pretty sure most plants have a no cell phone policy in the units. It's pretty much something people can get fired for.
You def. can't drive around on property while using a phone.
I would think that the people performing the more dangerous jobs are not the old arse farts close to retirement who are operators or holding down the desk.
And as someone above pointed out, the safety standards are insane now. The amount of planning and paperwork for simple task is crazy.
And don't discount all the drug and background checks that go on now just for the bubbas to even be able to get in to work now. Everyone has gone or is going to the hair follical and saliva test as well as much more detailed background checks.
I bet plants are safer now than they have ever been, but the productivity probably is pretty low due to more safety measures in place.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:06 pm to notiger1997
I’ve been at my site for 29 years, in Safety and IH for 13 of those years. Every year more safety measures and policies are implimented. We spend a huge amount of time training ALL employees on safety. I’m currently doing a two day session on isolation of energy. The incident numbers are much lower than 10 years ago. We have seen across the globe that the majority of severe incidents involve employees with 20 or more years experience. Complacency, taking shortcuts, and doing things the old way are often causes. I’ve seen a huge change in safety focus and culture.
I do agree the younger operators and maintenance techs seem hooked on their cell phones; offenses if caught in an operating area are grounds for termination.
I do agree the younger operators and maintenance techs seem hooked on their cell phones; offenses if caught in an operating area are grounds for termination.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:13 pm to drake76
It's not the inexperience that will lead to incidents. The hiring every woman that applies is getting scary tho.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:38 pm to drake76
I think we like to make ourselves feel important by thinking that our vast experience makes us able to do a given job better than anyone else.
fact is, there have always been retirements and new employees in the workforce. they will do every bit as well as we did....
fact is, there have always been retirements and new employees in the workforce. they will do every bit as well as we did....
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:39 pm to drake76
No. Plant work is not rocket science.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:44 pm to AUCE05
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No. Plant work is not rocket science
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:55 pm to drake76
The numbers are higher because of the number of inexperienced new employees that are being hired. They are likely making the same mistakes as everyone has as a new employee, but the higher numbers are because there are so many new inexperienced people finding their way at the same time because of the number of experienced people who have retired. If that makes sense.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:13 pm to castorinho
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Uh not necessarily. Lots of older workforce perform a lot of unsafe acts because of complacency and "we've always done it this way"
In my experience the younger workers are much more likely to buy in to safety culture than the older guys.
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