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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:57 am to OweO
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:03 am to SoFla Tideroller
Probably a DEI pilot
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:06 am to danilo
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Probably a DEI pilot
The 55 year old guy named Jeff??
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:08 am to Tyga Woods
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The 55 year old guy named Jeff??
And
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Nathalia Gadelha Filgueiras, 20
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:13 am to Gimme back that fish
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Informative analysis with what information is known:
Always include Captain Steve when posting his shite.
While I don't like him at all this is one of the few times where he doesn't make a jackass out of himself besides his 'try not to cry' moment.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:18 am to dupergreenie
His post on this incident was solid.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:19 am to JudgeHolden
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Looks like they found another piece of the elevator three miles away. Can't link to Facebook, but it is on Live Storm Chasers 8 hours ago.
So DrUMps SAMs hit that single piece of the plane!!a!!!@1!!!!
I bet 2 50 year old pilots could have flown that plane missing that and a wing!
(This is sarcasm)
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:21 am to Stevo
I did say that besides the fake 'try not to cry' he didn't make a jackass of himself.
Thats about as good as you will get from me on him.
Thats about as good as you will get from me on him.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:25 am to Duffnshank
Am I the only one that doesn’t hear the Lord’s Prayer in the recording?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:27 am to KingRanch
It’s faint and you only hear one line
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 9:27 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:30 am to dupergreenie
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said the coroner said not to but she insisted. Said she regretted it because there was nothing to really identify the kid...was just basically meat.
There are pictures of a cosmonaut who crashed and it is very definable as a horribly mangled human corpse.
Side note, my aunt asked to see my cousin’s body and they did. The showed her and she absolutely went into a blind rage because they just stuffed his guts back into him and didn’t sew him up very well
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:30 am to dupergreenie
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(This is sarcasm)
There has been a lot of dumbness on this topic for sure.
We still don't know the chicken and egg question.
Did the turbulence cause structural failure? Or did they stall it at altitude and pull the tail off in recovery with a too sudden move above an icing (weight) depressed VA?
Or something else . . . .
The good news is that the NTSB is insanely thorough. We just need to wait a couple of years before the report.
It does remind me of some gallows humor among pilots I knew (most old CIA or military jocks).
The cause of all crashes is . . . insufficient altitude.
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:35 am to KingRanch
Pilot Steve thinks Ice buildup is the culprit. The other guy says maybe not -
The severe turbulence put the jet into an upset situation. Pilot was unable to recover and regain control of the jet. Jet then goes into a dive which evolves into Mach Tuck situation, which is the end state - you can't recover control when that happens. Tail section broke off after the terminal dive already started.
Anyway, that's how I would summarize what he said. Steve says Ice caused the loss of control. Other guy says it was severe turbulence and that Ice was present but not the main cause.
Of course, they both say we don't know for sure, which is absolutely true.
The severe turbulence put the jet into an upset situation. Pilot was unable to recover and regain control of the jet. Jet then goes into a dive which evolves into Mach Tuck situation, which is the end state - you can't recover control when that happens. Tail section broke off after the terminal dive already started.
Anyway, that's how I would summarize what he said. Steve says Ice caused the loss of control. Other guy says it was severe turbulence and that Ice was present but not the main cause.
Of course, they both say we don't know for sure, which is absolutely true.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:36 am to JudgeHolden
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Did the turbulence cause structural failure? Or did they stall it at altitude and pull the tail off in recovery with a too sudden move above an icing (weight) depressed VA?
I'm going with your 2nd explanation. Planes can handle a lot of turbulence, but the frame stress resulting from a stall and related overspeed seems more likely.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:41 am to RummelTiger
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A man flew the plane into a violent thunderstorm that potentially caused the death of all nine people on board…and people still want to focus on an inconsequential text ten minutes before.
He made a critical mistake which is baffling considering experience.
I’m sure she was a fine a pilot and apologies to her for criticizing her at all. Women should never be criticized and I apologize.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:42 am to Champagne
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The other guy says maybe not -
When able, can you please link the turbulence analysis?would you like like to watch/listen to it.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:45 am to jizzle6609
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He made a critical mistake which is baffling considering experience.
I’m sure she was a fine a pilot and apologies to her for criticizing her at all. Women should never be criticized and I apologize.
I have a hard time believing that the NTSB won't ultimately criticize the actions of both pilots. But a blanket statement that women should not pilot planes is just plain stupid.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:46 am to Stevo
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is just plain stupid.
it's plane stupid is what it is amirite
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:48 am to danilo
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danilo
Dumbass alert.
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