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re: Plane collides with helicopter over Reagan International Airport; Looking in Potomac

Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:08 am to
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14885 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:08 am to
quote:

Info circulating is saying a regional jet operated by PSA (American Airlines).


Shitty plane operated by a shitty airline. I avoid PSA and that model jet like the plague.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104363 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:09 am to
Not a pilot either but it's strange to me that local traffic would be passing through the final approach in the first place. Do it enough times and the law of averages says a collision will happen, regardless of safeguards. If it's that congested, maybe they should shut it down and move everything to BWI.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175868 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:10 am to
This would have happened to any airline. It was PSA that happened to be there at that time.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14885 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:14 am to
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What in the actual frick… how does a military copter enter the airspace of approaching aircraft


When a TDS deranged pilot decides he wants to take out his VIP passenger. I hope I’m wrong but that’s what this is starting to feel like.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175868 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:15 am to
Guy at the presser asked about the number of survivors and all the mayor said is there were 64 people on the plane. Non answer was an answer.

The one picture of that plane out looks bad. Hard impact, not enough time to take the collision, react and brace
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104363 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:15 am to
Pentagon says no pax on board, only the three crew members.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20613 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:19 am to
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When a TDS deranged poster

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by Pax Regis
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:19 am to
Shitty post by a shitty poster. This was unavoidable by the airplane.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:20 am to
quote:

Not a pilot either but it's strange to me that local traffic would be passing through the final approach in the first place. Do it enough times and the law of averages says a collision will happen, regardless of safeguards. If it's that congested, maybe they should shut it down and move everything to BWI.


There's a flight level you can potentially stay under (or over but that wouldn't apply here) to be out of the restricted airspace based on the class(some don't have this minimum).

Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20316 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:22 am to
Airport is definitely closed until 11 a.m.

Check with your airline and don't make your responses about you.

It is likely that most of 67 people are dead. Think about that.
Posted by trader_tiger83
Member since Dec 2012
1416 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:22 am to
My God, I just hope there weren’t any children on board.
Posted by TheGeauxt9
South Louisiana
Member since May 2021
398 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:25 am to


First image of wreckage from X. Absolutely terrible, prayers for all involved.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 12:26 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175868 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:26 am to
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If it's that congested, maybe they should shut it down and move everything to BWI.

DCA still operates solely so government officials don't have to fight through the poors and traffic on the 30 mile drive from Dulles.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:29 am to
Another issue with the flight avoidance capabilities, they were on basically landing mode, full flaps engaged, engines powered down, etc. This makes efforts to physically avoid a crash on the plane's part, much more difficult than in flight avoidance protocol where you can change altitude and direction more swiftly.

This is tragic.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:31 am to
Yep even if they would have saw the Blackhawk at the last second, they probably couldn’t have done much with the plane powered down for landing.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6444 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:35 am to
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First image of wreckage from X. Absolutely terrible, prayers for all involved.


At this point, you gotta pray everyone died on impact and as instant as possible. I couldn't fathom being crushed together, alive, and going deep into that frigid water.

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:40 am to
Looking at the video, the jet couldn't have even seen the Blackhawk, or even did on final and assumed they were going over them. It came from relatively behind at their convergent path.

The Blackhawk definitely is at fault.

It's possible that the pilots of the Blackhawk couldn't see the landing aircraft based on the angle (plane was coming down obviously). But WTF.

Now reports that people have been pulled alive!

Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15062 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:41 am to
The new Secretary of Transportation was sworn in on Tuesday afternoon. Wednesday evening he’s dealing with a major airline catastrophe a few blocks from his new office.

Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6444 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:43 am to
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Now reports that people have been pulled alive!


Where are you seeing survivors?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:44 am to
ABC News I believe said it, I could be wrong.
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