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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:01 pm to ItFliesItDies
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:03 pm to Nawlens Gator
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If one ever wanders into my yard, it will not leave.
Well that's awful nice of you to take in all these unwanted strays....
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:06 pm to Summer of George
The breed is not engineered for fighting. Like many others have said the way a breed acts is dependent on how the owner raised them.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:10 pm to panterica
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That is ignorant. Responsible is taking care of a pit bull responsibly.
And I'm sure many of these owners whose mutts have mauled a kid say the same thing you're saying...they were responsible and just don't understand why it happened because "HE WAS SO GOOD AROUND KIDS!"
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:12 pm to PapiGogo
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PapiGogo
Something should be done about people who generalize and cast wide nets to fix their addiction for needing something to blame for everything.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:15 pm to stampman
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Well that's awful nice of you to take in all these unwanted strays....
lol
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:20 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Your mistake wasn't downing the pit, it was living in a neighborhood where pits roam free.
I guess by neighborhood you mean the other 2 houses in 4 square miles of mine.Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:37 pm to stampman
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And I'm sure many of these owners whose mutts have mauled a kid say the same thing you're saying...they were responsible and just don't understand why it happened because "HE WAS SO GOOD AROUND KIDS!"
Yep. I hear the same thing any time a dog bites someone.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:43 pm to ItFliesItDies
quote:Nice troll
That's why they(Pitbulls) ALL should be shot and become extinct.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:50 pm to Moustache
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Pet people as a whole are emotionally and mentally weak.
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I had a dog
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:04 pm to Summer of George
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The whole breed needs to go. They're genetically engineered for fighting.
All dogs are genetically engineered -- and have been for thousands of years -- to be fighting machines. They're domesticated cousins of wolves. They can be tamed with responsible ownership but they fundamentally exist to fight, to hunt and to kill. Those instincts are still there and don't go away.
It's not the breed's fault that so many pit bull owners are complete Thug POSes. That's what drives the high attack numbers. Pit bulls, like any other dog, should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Anyone arguing otherwise is irrational and uninformed.
Also it's really stupid that people form this "pick the dog over the child" dichotomy. Both of them can be independent of fault. Kids often accidentally provoke dogs because they don't know better. That doesn't make the kid "at fault" here. Nor does it make the dog "at fault" for reacting instinctively.
The police officers handled this about as well as they could given the circumstances. This particular dog was too wild and aggressive to keep alive. It's a terrible tragedy that this child died and I feel awful for the family. That doesn't mean we should wipe out all pit bulls. That's just dumb irrational thinking.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:12 pm to lsutothetop
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All dogs are genetically engineered -- and have been for thousands of years -- to be fighting machines. They're domesticated cousins of wolves. They can be tamed with responsible ownership but they fundamentally exist to fight, to hunt and to kill. Those instincts are still there and don't go away.
Dogs are bred for a variety of reasons. Working breeds especially were historically selectively bred to produce a high genetic predisposition for expression of the desired working behaviors. Pit bulls were historically selectively bred to fight bulls...in pits...And later to fight each other. I'm not aware of any other common breed in the U.S. that was selectively bred to fight.
It isn't about the dog being "set off" or having too strong a bite or any of that apologetic nonsense.
In the same way that tracking dogs were selectively bred to have an innate urge to track, herding dogs have an innate urge to herd, retrievers have an innate urge to retrieve, etc etc...Pit bulls have an innate desire to maul things. You can try to suppress that behavior all you want with environment and socialization and so forth, but the underlying genetics are still there.
Edit to add - Mr. Wayne's contributions to the thread seem to validate the anti-pit posters' stance that the breed itself is innately predisposed toward hurting people regardless of efforts to minimize the risk.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:14 pm to lsutothetop
Spoke to someone close to the mom and her boyfriend. He breeds pitbulls and is an advocate. Apparently he gave the mother one as a gift. Not saying there is anything wrong, but it just shows you that if one just loses it, no matter the up bringing, the type of damage they can do. Sad story.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:25 pm to ItFliesItDies
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LINK That's why they(Pitbulls) ALL should be shot and become extinct.
Liberals gonna lib.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:33 pm to ItFliesItDies
says the dog had to be shot several times and was still aggressive when police arrived...
that dog was ill or had something wrong with it...i have been around pits alot...have a half boxer half pit in my house...and have never seen that type of behavior...
very sad...parents should be charged imho...
that dog was ill or had something wrong with it...i have been around pits alot...have a half boxer half pit in my house...and have never seen that type of behavior...
very sad...parents should be charged imho...
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:20 pm to SthGADawg
I've got a bull boxer. Didn't know it when we got him. Guy sold it too me lied. He started looking like a pit and vet confirmed.
We love the hell out of that dog now and he's part of the family. However, I will say this....... Anybody that has one must understand the responsibility and be a very strong personality able to handle such an animal. The alpha must be understood or there can be trouble. Our dog is one powerful animal. He is sweet 99 percent of the time but if he perceives a threat to any family member, he cranks up from pleasant to trouble crazy fast. We kennel him when we are not home or someone is in the house. It comes down to the owner in my mind.
We love the hell out of that dog now and he's part of the family. However, I will say this....... Anybody that has one must understand the responsibility and be a very strong personality able to handle such an animal. The alpha must be understood or there can be trouble. Our dog is one powerful animal. He is sweet 99 percent of the time but if he perceives a threat to any family member, he cranks up from pleasant to trouble crazy fast. We kennel him when we are not home or someone is in the house. It comes down to the owner in my mind.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:29 pm to Tiger1242
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13 pages
Great guess!
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:43 pm to Mr. Wayne
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He breeds pitbulls and is an advocate. Apparently he gave the mother one as a gift.
Sounds like someone who had no business breeding dogs and had no business giving this kind of a dog to his mother. I'm going to go ahead and assume his mother treated this dog like a spoiled child and the dog thinks it's in charge. When a dog thinks he runs the show shite like this is bound to happen. I've seen it with labs, pits, boxers, german shepherds, etc.
Just like the Dog Whisperer says...be the dominant one. If not you have no business owning any dog. Especially a big one. I have two pit mixes and those boys know I'm the pack leader.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:05 pm to lsutothetop
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It's not the breed's fault that so many pit bull owners are complete Thug POSes. That's what drives the high attack numbers. Pit bulls, like any other dog, should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Anyone arguing otherwise is irrational and uninformed.
Give me a break. Pit bulls are 99% loving and 1% unpredictable. Some obtuse individuals would make an argument that there are more aggressive breeds (e.g. Chihuahuas), but those breeds don't possess the physical assets to be deadly.
Don't you think there is a reason why thugs choose pit bulls to fight? If any dog can be bred to be aggressive, why don't we have Golden Retrievers in these fighting rings. Hell, why aren't English Mastiffs involved in dog fighting (they're the most massive dog breed in the world)? You're premise doesn't make sense.
These maulings are much too common to ignore or rationalize with faulty logic. These are fighting dogs that have no place in society.
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