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re: Pilot of Southwest flight with blown engine was one of Navy's first female fighter pilots

Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:14 am to
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some people who are borderline retarded post here.





I think some in this thread crossed that border quite a while back.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3885 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:17 am to
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At 10k ft that's fine, but at 30k ft, it could cause an explosion. Good lord.


Again, not what I'm talking about. The hole formed, decompression occurred, pressure was equalized, and that's the end of that. And that entire series probably took less than 10 seconds to occur. Could something worse have happened? Yup. But it didn't, so that's not what we're talking about. Once the pressure equalized that plane flew no differently with a hole in its side than it did 10 minutes prior.

ETA: Flew no differently because of the pressure. Obviously it flew a bit differently because of the no engine on one side thing.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:20 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:18 am to
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Again, not saying that it isn't impressive. Flying a fully operation airplane is impressive. Landing one with half the engines and a hole in it is obviously at least somewhat more impressive. But is it so difficult that only a handful of elite pilots could do it? Just curious to get learned here.


I agree with you on this, she followed emergency procedures as she was trained to do, and she should be commended for this, but any other 737 pilot with similar training should have been able to follow the same procedure and achieve the same outcome. There have been a couple of rare instances where due to damaged flight controls pilots were required to figure out the problem and come up with a solution on the fly, but this was not one of them.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:20 am to
This place just never ceases to amaze me
Posted by BillBrosky
Your wife's back door
Member since Mar 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:21 am to
What's the argument here? Is it if the plane is harder to fly, or is it harder for the pilot to fly the plane?
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21348 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:22 am to
The pilots own words describe the aircraft as Missing part of the aircraft.

You can be sure that the flaps were damaged as well as the hydraulics that control them. Not to mention a hole in the fuselage that sucked out one person and partially sucked out another.

The massive pressure exhaust at height causes the plane to peel itself outwards. She had to do an emergency descent and bleed speed while not allowing the plane to peel apart. Oh, and then she put it down safely.

You are being obtuse in your continued questioning and I don’t think anyone will argue a simple shutdown is appreciably harder than landing with two engines but that is clearly what did not happen. An engine blew up enough to create a hole and shower passengers with shrapnel. If you don’t see how that is different then I will gentlemanly stop pushing the issue and feel sorry for your lack of common sense.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:22 am to
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what is wrong with you people. Seriously


Some people around here just really enjoy crapping on other people’s accomplishments.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:23 am to
The pilot being a woman has triggered the OT today
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88456 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:23 am to
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Once the pressure equalized that plane flew no differently with a hole in its side than it did 10 minutes prior.
Once the pilot regained control and got it to 10k feet in under 5 minutes. So easy. Here's where we are:

It was easy because:

1) she's a well-trained pilot with tons of experience
2) we can ignore the stress of the situation: the injured people and the blown up engine. Why? Because you said so.
3) a hole in the fuselage at 30k ft + a possibly damaged wing = an engine cutoff at 10k ft
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:25 am
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3885 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:24 am to
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This place just never ceases to amaze me


We have a whole bunch of people in this thread acting like I'm an idiot and what I'm saying is wrong in the most common sense way. What am I saying that is wrong?

Aside from chuckling and getting in your quip about how I'm retarded (which might not be incorrect), can any of rhodes scholars tell me what I'm wrong about here? What does everyone 'know' about flying an airplane that I don't? This is confusing my small brain.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88456 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:25 am to
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What am I saying that is wrong?
You're right man. As soon as you change the situation to a failed engine at 10k ft with no one on board in a flight simulator, you are so totally right.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9387 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:29 am to
Classic TD.

This lady is a decorated veteran and does a whale of a job in getting this plane down safely, yet some people really think this story is an attack on white men.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3885 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:32 am to
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The pilots own words describe the aircraft as Missing part of the aircraft. You can be sure that the flaps were damaged as well as the hydraulics that control them.


Again, if this is true, it's an entirely different story. This is more than losing an engine, this is losing control function.

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Not to mention a hole in the fuselage that sucked out one person and partially sucked out another.


This obviously sucks, but I don't see how this affected the performance of the aircraft.

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The massive pressure exhaust at height causes the plane to peel itself outwards. She had to do an emergency descent and bleed speed while not allowing the plane to peel apart.


I don't believe this is true. Do you have some evidence? The instant the rupture happens, the dP is great enough to potentially cause a catastrophic breakdown of the fuselage. But pressure equalizes incredibly quickly and once it is equalized, there would be absolutely no threat of the remaining body 'peeling' apart.

I appreciate you trying to have a logical conversation about what happened, tho....
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I will gentlemanly stop pushing the issue and feel sorry for your lack of common sense.
...ah there it is, nevermind.
Posted by BillBrosky
Your wife's back door
Member since Mar 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:32 am to
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yet some people really think this story is an attack on white men.


Great inside stuff. The news is not reporting the sex change.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:34 am to
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Once the pilot regained control and got it to 10k feet in under 5 minutes.

So easy. Here's where we are: It was easy because: 1) she's a well-trained pilot with tons of experience 2) we can ignore the stress of the situation: the injured people and the blown up engine. Why? Because you said so. 3) a hole in the fuselage at 30k ft + a possibly damaged wing = an engine cutoff at 10k ft


It was easy because:

She's a well-trained pilot with tons of experience.

We can ignore the stress of the situation: the injured people and the blown up engine. Why?

She's a well-trained pilot with tons of experience. A hole in the fuselage at 30k ft + a possibly damaged wing = an engine cutoff at 10k ft

Whatever the damage she followed emergency procedures, why?

She's a well-trained pilot with tons of experience.




This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by BillBrosky
Your wife's back door
Member since Mar 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:35 am to
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This obviously sucks, but I don't see how this affected the performance of the aircraft.


Payne Stewart didn't see it either.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3885 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:36 am to
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This lady is a decorated veteran and does a whale of a job in getting this plane down safely, yet some people really think this story is an attack on white men.


What?? I didn't even read the linked story, I don't give a shite about the story. I don't give a shite if she was a woman, man, trans, dog, whatever. They could give this woman the presidential medal of freedom for this and I would applaud her and say great job. She should get credit for performing under pressure and safely landing a damaged plane.

My question was whether landing that plane was, technically speaking, all that difficult. Had nothing to do with the politics of who the damn pilot was.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:36 am to
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Tammie Jo Shults


She's from Fair Oaks Ranch (just north of SA).

What a badass
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:39 am to
Props to this lady. She should absolutely get her due praise if she deserves it!
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:39 am to
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This obviously sucks, but I don't see how this affected the performance of the aircraft.

Payne Stewart didn't see it either.


Payne Stewart was not the pilot, and the plane he was in flew perfectly fine until it ran out of fuel. The pilots were incapacitated form a gradual depressurization due to a faulty valve.
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