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Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:09 pm to Kafka
"November 1908: Gastonia, North Carolina. Lacy, 12 years old, and Savannah, 11. Have worked two years. Father said ‘The little one is a crackerjack on spinnin’, at least so the boss says. She ain’t satisfied unless in the mill. The oldest one isn’t so good at it. Not as quick.’ (Note the tense, serious looks on the younger. Older one more like a real girl.)” - photo and caption by Lewis Wicks Hire
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:10 pm to Kafka
Klezmer musicians in The Ukraine, 1912
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 pm to Kafka
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:24 pm to Kafka
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November 1908: Gastonia, North Carolina. Lacy, 12 years old, and Savannah, 11. Have worked two years. Father said ‘The little one is a crackerjack on spinnin’, at least so the boss says. She ain’t satisfied unless in the mill. The oldest one isn’t was so good at it. Not as quick.’ (Note the tense, serious looks on the younger. Older one more like a real girl.)” - photo and caption by Lewis Wicks Hire
Our modern notion of adolescence would seem completely foreign and perhaps even absurd to our ancestors. Historically, once a child was old enough to do some form of work, childhood as we’d recognize it today, was, for all intents and purposes, over.
The concept of a “teenager” didn’t really exist until the 1940s. Most children were doing some form of work by the age of 10. It was common for girls to be married by 15-16 years old, oftentimes to men older, sometimes much older, than they were. The reason for this was, before a father would allow his daughter to marry, he required the suitor to be able to demonstrate the ability to provide for his daughter. At that time this usually meant marrying an older male who already had had his own land and home. As for these older males, they sought younger females who were strong and had many childbearing years left. If a girl past her early 20s without having secured a husband, she was considered an “old maid”.
It was a different age.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:58 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:This comic strip began in 1919:
The concept of a “teenager” didn’t really exist until the 1940
Teenagers were the result of both the Industrial Revolution and postwar affluence of the ever-expanding middle class. Kids in the suburbs and nicer sections of the cities were not needed for farmwork, thus giving them an enormous increase in leisure time.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:13 pm to Kafka
clapton reading the latest copy of beano
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:34 pm to Kafka
The 1934 feature film version of "Harold TeeN" starring Hal LeRoy, I found to be only so-so. Always wanted to see the earlier silent version with Arthur Lake. It apparently survives, but is never screened.
Still seemed to take a while before the 'teen' thing coalesced into a distinctive sub-culture, which advertisers took note of and started targeting. Movie-wise, you had "Andy Hardy" (late-30s) and then "Henry Aldrich" (staring on radio in 1940, I believe), and "Archie Comics" comic-book around 1942. I recall a film with Jackie Cooper, "Seventeen" (1941) also. The bobby-soxers, the malt-shop cliches. Really blossomed quite a bit in the war years, alligned with the later swing era.
A fun historical niche, although I do think its development seemed ultimately to egg on a kind of new generational separation and resentment, courtesy of Madison Avenue hucksters and opportunists that led to so much later social discord.
Still seemed to take a while before the 'teen' thing coalesced into a distinctive sub-culture, which advertisers took note of and started targeting. Movie-wise, you had "Andy Hardy" (late-30s) and then "Henry Aldrich" (staring on radio in 1940, I believe), and "Archie Comics" comic-book around 1942. I recall a film with Jackie Cooper, "Seventeen" (1941) also. The bobby-soxers, the malt-shop cliches. Really blossomed quite a bit in the war years, alligned with the later swing era.
A fun historical niche, although I do think its development seemed ultimately to egg on a kind of new generational separation and resentment, courtesy of Madison Avenue hucksters and opportunists that led to so much later social discord.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:38 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
one of my favorite movies
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:19 pm to Darth_Vader
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The concept of a “teenager” didn’t really exist until the 1940s.
At least you said 1940's. This line gets thrown around all the time on history message boards, but the usual claim is 1950's.
Neither claim is completely accurate. I can show you newspaper columns from the 1920's complaining about the youngsters hanging out at drugstores. Bunch of drugstore cowboys and Valentino wannabes.
In reality, experiences of childhood and adolescence have always varied based on economics, time, and place. Pre-Industrial agrarian youth would have been shocked by the urban factory working kids of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The 50's probably saw the rise of teens as a viable consumer market segment.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:20 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
quote:You need to post more Mr Vocalion
The 1934 feature film version of "Harold TeeN" starring Hal LeRoy, I found to be only so-so. Always wanted to see the earlier silent version with Arthur Lake. It apparently survives, but is never screened.
Still seemed to take a while before the 'teen' thing coalesced into a distinctive sub-culture, which advertisers took note of and started targeting. Movie-wise, you had "Andy Hardy" (late-30s) and then "Henry Aldrich" (staring on radio in 1940, I believe), and "Archie Comics" comic-book around 1942. I recall a film with Jackie Cooper, "Seventeen" (1941) also. The bobby-soxers, the malt-shop cliches. Really blossomed quite a bit in the war years, alligned with the later swing era.
A fun historical niche, although I do think its development seemed ultimately to egg on a kind of new generational separation and resentment, courtesy of Madison Avenue hucksters and opportunists that led to so much later social discord.
Whoa I bet that pic of Veronica gave a lot of 40s adolescents some fantasies...
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:46 pm to CaptainsWafer
That’s a universal studios in Orlando lol
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:33 am to TutHillTiger
Annette Funicello
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:34 am to mauser
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:35 am to mauser
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:50 am to mauser
Helena, Montana - 1865
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:37 am to Traveler
cartoonish Dik Browne (Hagar the Horrible, Hi and Lois)
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:38 am to chinhoyang
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:43 am to chinhoyang
unintentional "moments" in old comics
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:44 pm to chinhoyang
A very film noirish shot from The Andy Griffith Show, photographed by Sid Hickox, who did 'The Big Sleep' & 'White Heat' for Warners in the '40s. I think Opie witnessed Otis Campbell murder Floyd The Barber, & suspects the sheriff's office may be in on the cover-up;
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