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re: Phi Psi at LSU suspended
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:07 am to Kategory 5
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:07 am to Kategory 5
They deserve the punishment. You know every move you make is under a microscope, and you still do stupid things. I have zero sympathy.
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:20 am to MSUDawg98
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This is such a bullshite comment usually made by those who couldn't get a bid on the best day of their life.
I didn’t go to College. I joined the Army when I was 17. So I don’t really understand the Greek life. But if joining a Frat is the best day of your life then you either haven’t experienced much, have a boring life or have a extremely shallow and sad life.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:29 am to carhartt
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But if joining a Frat is the best day of your life then you either haven’t experienced much, have a boring life or have a extremely shallow and sad life.
I think most people that enjoy Greek life are those that craved acceptance and never got it in high school.
Personally, I was fine with my life and friends and didn’t need an external club to grow my friend circle.
I don’t see how anyone that attended LSU could look at how the majority of frat guys there act and want to join that life.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 7:29 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:36 am to The Pirate King
You only notice the jackasses, and their definitely are some. But there are hundreds who go to class, make their grades and go about their business unobtrusively.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:49 am to carhartt
Ehhh. That’s true for some, but not all. My brother was a TKE. They didn’t do all the dumb shite the other “cool” frats would do. They mostly just threw house parties and played video games. Frats get a really bad reputation, and a lot of times they earn that. However, all the bad shite you hear that goes down in frat houses also happen in the rest of the student body. I’ve been to PLENTY of parties not associated with frats and saw A LOT of the same stuff. The reality is, young people who have their first taste of freedom make stupid decisions.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:02 am to DeafJam73
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The reality is, young people who have their first taste of freedom make stupid decisions.
There’s no denying that. Young guys in the Army do some pretty stupid stuff and somehow survive.
I’m just saying that a person must have a pretty shallow or sad life if they think something like pledging to a Frat is the best day of their lives.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:16 am to carhartt
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I’m just saying that a person must have a pretty shallow or sad life if they think something like pledging to a Frat is the best day of their lives.
I don’t think that’s true. There is a lot of history and tradition that goes into being a part of a Frat. It all depends on the decisions an individual makes and whether or not that person decides to live with integrity. The outlook you have towards Frats is the same outlook that many have towards the Army. I’m sure there are plenty of people who should not be in the Army. But I do know that there are a lot more who serve with honor and high integrity who are willing to make big sacrifices and who have done that. I’m not telling you to join a Frat, but just to keep an open mind.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:27 am to Jim Rockford
I was pretty anti-Greek in my college years 20 years ago so I don’t know a lot about the specific sorority or fraternity but I have family members that are now involved and I act interested, but really don’t care much one way or the other.
Looking back, I can see how it would have been great to make friends and future networking and kinda wish I wouldn’t have been so anti, but my parents never even would consider paying for Greek life amd I couldn’t work enough to make it worth if. As it is, I had to pay for certain semesters that I did bad as my parents refused to pay for D’S or F’s amd I had a 3 semesters with either a D or an F.
But, this story has so much more to it. I don’t know any details exceot what’s been reported but supposedly the girlfriend committed suicide? What’s the full story here? Guy OD’s, girl kills herself?
I need to read up on it.
Looking back, I can see how it would have been great to make friends and future networking and kinda wish I wouldn’t have been so anti, but my parents never even would consider paying for Greek life amd I couldn’t work enough to make it worth if. As it is, I had to pay for certain semesters that I did bad as my parents refused to pay for D’S or F’s amd I had a 3 semesters with either a D or an F.
But, this story has so much more to it. I don’t know any details exceot what’s been reported but supposedly the girlfriend committed suicide? What’s the full story here? Guy OD’s, girl kills herself?
I need to read up on it.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:28 am to DeafJam73
As I said upthread, joining a fraternity helped me break out of my shell and meet people. If I was a super outgoing person I probably would have gotten along fine without it. But at the time it served a purpose. As far as the brothers for life thing, YMMV. I'm rarely in contact with any of those guys nowadays. But my dad is still close with several of his fraternity brothers and they get together a few times a year.
TBH some of the things I read about now are pretty disturbing. I have mixed feelings about whether I'd want a kid of mine to go through rush. I'd sure want to satisfy myself that the drug situation was under control.
TBH some of the things I read about now are pretty disturbing. I have mixed feelings about whether I'd want a kid of mine to go through rush. I'd sure want to satisfy myself that the drug situation was under control.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:38 am to carhartt
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There’s no denying that. Young guys in the Army do some pretty stupid stuff and somehow survive.
As a Navy wife, my sister more than once had to host the families of junior enlisted who died in some mishap. Usually it involved a motorcycle.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:40 am to Jim Rockford
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I have mixed feelings about whether I'd want a kid of mine to go through rush
It is best to research the chapter as much as possible and talk to your kid. I went through rush and I was lucky I made the choice I did.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:48 am to DeafJam73
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Frats get a really bad reputation, and a lot of times they earn that. However, all the bad shite you hear that goes down in frat houses also happen in the rest of the student body. I’ve been to PLENTY of parties not associated with frats and saw A LOT of the same stuff. The reality is, young people who have their first taste of freedom make stupid decisions.
This is true, but the key difference is frat life, especially among SEC schools, is sanctioned by the schools. They get prime real estate on the campuses, and at most SEC schools the houses are massive and opulent(at least on the exterior.) If frats and sororities were moved off campus, I don't think there'd be such a negative view of them from current and past GDI's.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:57 am to The Spleen
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If frats and sororities were moved off campus, I don't think there'd be such a negative view of them from current and past GDI's.
On the one hand, most greek organizations couldn't survive financially without university support. On the other, having them on campus gives the university a measure of control. A few would be able to go it alone and the university would have no leverage. Example: Texas Rho is an outlaw SAE chapter at UT. Nationals pulled their charter but they had the wherewithal to survive independently, and they're a constant thorn in the university's side.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:38 am to The Pirate King
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I think most people that enjoy Greek life are those that craved acceptance and never got it in high school.
Not necessarily. I think for a lot of kids (not all), it is a continuation of their private school upbring and experience and the circle of people they run with.
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Personally, I was fine with my life and friends and didn’t need an external club to grow my friend circle.
Totally agree with this. But I also saw they type of person that I was and compared it to the type of people that were in frats, and knew that I wouldn't be a fit.
It doesn't mean that I was a loser; it doesn't mean that they were losers. It just means we were different.
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don’t see how anyone that attended LSU could look at how the majority of frat guys there act and want to join that life.
Agree also. As I got into college and started to see what most of the frat guys were like, it further confirmed to me that that was something I didn't want to be a part of. But as I said earlier, most Greeks almost seem to be born into it and track into it. It is something those kids look forward to starting when they are in HS at places like Catholic/U-High, etc.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:53 am to The Pirate King
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I think most people that enjoy Greek life are those that craved acceptance and never got it in high school. Personally, I was fine with my life and friends and didn’t need an external club to grow my friend circle. I don’t see how anyone that attended LSU could look at how the majority of frat guys there act and want to join that life.
Uhhhh….no. You must have been a pschyc or sociology major.
I was a student athlete in high school, was popular (I think) and had girlfriends…..short and long term. I grew up in BTR in the shadows of LSU and the Greek houses. Its was something most if not all the private school guys did in the 80s and I took it for what it was.....a club. I had my meal plan at the house and it gave me place to hang between classes. We had epic parties back when you could still pull a beer truck into your front yard and then we would crawl back over to the house on Sundays to play poker or hang out. I had lots of friends and other social circles outside of the fraternity and it wasn't the apex of my life. It was a good time, simple as that. Ive heard your spiel before and 9 times out of 10 its from guys that regretted they didn't join, couldn't get a bid or couldn't afford it. I paid for it out of my own pocket and it was worth every penny I spent. You missed out buddy whether you realize it or not.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:25 am to Jim Rockford
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Texas Rho is an outlaw SAE chapter at UT. Nationals pulled their charter but they had the wherewithal to survive independently, and they're a constant thorn in the university's side.
You don't want to mess with those guys. I looked them up, and there's a guy on their board called Barksdale Hortenstine. Screw around with a guy named Barksdale Hortenstine and you're liable to end up at the murky bottom of a yacht club harbor.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:27 am to msap9020
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9 times out of 10 its from guys that regretted they didn't join, couldn't get a bid or couldn't afford it.
Totally wrong. And it is this line of thinking that makes all of you look like douchy elitist assholes.
Believe it or not, those of us who chose not to join a frat never really gave it a second thought. Kinda like how I never gave a second thought to not joining the Latin Club, the Young Republicans Club, or PETA. Your fantasy that we walked around all the time just longing to be one of you, but couldn't because we were inferior, just isn't true.
Money wasn't an issue. Granted, my family didn't come from "BR Private School wealth", but we did ok.
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You missed out buddy whether you realize it or not.
Here is some news for you: It was totally possible to have fun at LSU without being in a frat. Getting blackout drunk and crawling to the house on Sunday might have been for you, which is fine. Just not my thing though.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:34 am to LSUGrad9295
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Totally wrong. And it is this line of thinking that makes all of you look like douchy elitist a-holes. Believe it or not, those of us who chose not to join a frat never really gave it a second thought. Kinda like how I never gave a second thought to not joining the Latin Club, the Young Republicans Club, or PETA. Your fantasy that we walked around all the time just longing to be one of you, but couldn't because we were inferior, just isn't true.
Your anger says otherwise.
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Here is some news for you: It was totally possible to have fun at LSU without being in a frat. Getting blackout drunk and crawling to the house on Sunday might have been for you, which is fine. Just not my thing though.
And you sound like a lot of fun.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:38 am to LSUGrad9295
I didn't know a single non-Greek person at Bama when I was there that was envious of any Greek members or the Greek life.
I did know a handful or so of fraternity members that ended up hating their fraternity after their first year or two.
I did know a handful or so of fraternity members that ended up hating their fraternity after their first year or two.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:40 am to The Spleen
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I didn't know a single non-Greek person at Bama when I was there that was envious of any Greek members or the Greek life. I did know a handful or so of fraternity members that ended up hating their fraternity after their first year or two.
What's your time frame?
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