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Pharma stock plunges after 4th and 5th patients die from clinical trial

Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:14 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:14 am
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Shares of Juno Therapeutics dropped 33 percent in early market trade after the biopharmaceutical company announced complications with its Phase II clinical trial of JCAR015.

In Wednesday premarket trade, Juno's stock price dropped as much as 44 percent, before recovering somewhat.

The trial was voluntarily placed on hold after two patients suffered cerebral edema earlier this week; both died, bringing the study's death toll to five.

The JCAR015 drug was designed to fight cancer by using patients' own immune systems against the disease. However, the drug prototype has been plagued by issues in testing.

Three additional patients died in July from side effects of studying the same drug.

Following the death of the patient this week, the company has contacted the Food & Drug Administration and is collaborating with the Data and Safety Monitoring Board to determine how to move forward.


Yikes.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:14 am to
Well, it is called a trial.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:15 am to
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to determine how to move forward.


dont
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132589 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:15 am to
This is why we have trials

These patients had incurable disease, their deaths might save future lives
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80813 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:16 am to
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This is why we have trials

These patients had incurable disease, their deaths might save future lives



THIS
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:16 am to
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Well, it is called a trial.


Sure, I understand the necessity of it. I wonder how many patients are in the trial and how deadly it can get before they blow it up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:20 am to
This was their release after the trial was halted in the summer when 3 patients died:

[img]SEATTLE--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jul. 12, 2016-- Juno Therapeutics, Inc. (Nasdaq: JUNO), a biopharmaceutical company focused on re-engaging the body’s immune system to revolutionize the treatment of cancer, today announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has removed the clinical hold on the Phase II clinical trial of JCAR015 (known as the “ROCKET” trial) in adult patients with relapsed or refractory B cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia (r/r ALL).
Under the revised protocol, the ROCKET trial will continue enrollment using JCAR015 with cyclophosphamide pre-conditioning only.[/img]
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:21 am to
Brave people giving of themselves to find a cure. That's love.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:22 am to
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Yikes


There is no Yikes to it. Side effect deaths in pharma are now and always will be common.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57167 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:23 am to
If I have an incurable disease I will take any trial drugs they want me to.
Posted by DowntheBayouTiger
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2009
817 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:23 am to
What a fuxking surprise, pharma drugs kill people
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 9:24 am
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2853 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:24 am to
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Brave people giving of themselves to find a cure. That's love.


More likely that they're looking for any option to continue living
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:25 am to
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If I have an incurable disease I will take any trial drugs they want me to.



I'd probably try to become an X-Man by drinking plutonium or something
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:27 am to
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There is no Yikes to it. Side effect deaths in pharma are now and always will be common.



What is common? How many deaths from side effects are the norm? This isn't some sort of gotcha question, I'm genuinely curious.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:33 am to

I would have to look but it's prevelent. Now, some is of course noncompliance but others are catalysts for organ failure singularly and of course, contra-indication which is the result of what occurs when 2 or more RX are used together and have killing effects by one form or another. I guess I'm saying pharma kills a lot of people anyway... hate these folks died but like them, I would rather go out fighting, too.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:38 am to
Trial & Error
Posted by bouefbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
2339 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:39 am to
You are correct and sometimes it take decades for the value of their bravery to bare fruit. I work for a molecular diagnostic company and the archived tumor tissue from patients involved in the eighties led to our developing a test that determines if patients need chemo and has revoluntized how early stage breast is treated. Whenever we reach a mile stone the doctor who founded the company will say " let us take a moment to reflect on the brave woman who participated in these pivotal trials "
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10307 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:44 am to
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Shares of Juno Therapeutics dropped 33 percent in early market trade after the biopharmaceutical company announced complications with its Phase II clinical trial of JCAR015.

In Wednesday premarket trade, Juno's stock price dropped as much as 44 percent, before recovering somewhat.

The trial was voluntarily placed on hold after two patients suffered cerebral edema earlier this week; both died, bringing the study's death toll to five.



Sounds like now is the time to buy.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4614 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:06 am to
All of these patients had either relapsed or treatment-resistant leukemia, so I think that's the best way to look at these unfortunate incidents.

The strategy used in this study, taking the patient's own immune cells and engineering them to target and kill cancer cells, is probably the most promising idea in oncology in decades. Sadly, sometimes the immune cells are so effective and get so ramped up killing the cancer that the patient's body can't withstand it.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13874 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:11 am to
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The strategy used in this study, taking the patient's own immune cells and engineering them to target and kill cancer cells, is probably the most promising idea in oncology in decades. Sadly, sometimes the immune cells are so effective and get so ramped up killing the cancer that the patient's body can't withstand it.


Yup. Cerebral edema is a common deadly side effect with these types of treatments. Curious to see what their eligibility criteria were. A lot of new information is coming in and a lot is being learned about identifying and reducing these effects. They need to block IL6 as soon as certain symptoms are identified.
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