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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:20 am to Ingeniero
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:20 am to Ingeniero
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There's a big difference between indulging every now and then, and being a disgusting blob. We're 2 years into this and most people haven't made the slightest effort to make themselves less disgusting.
I support freedom
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We need to be healthier as a society but that requires too much self control.
I support freedom
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:21 am to Ingeniero
All I see/hear is vax vax vax
I never see anything advertised about reducing your level of lead in your arse and fat in your gut to reduce your covid risks.
I never see anything advertised about reducing your level of lead in your arse and fat in your gut to reduce your covid risks.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you think the government being nanny helps people make better decisions?
Show me anywhere that I said the government needs to step in and make these decisions for us. You're so dumb it hurts.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:21 am to moneyg
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We need to be healthier as a society but that requires too much self control.
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I support freedom
Exactly. If people want to die of covid, or eat themselves to death, I will not get in their way.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:23 am to moneyg
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In other words, dishonesty in an attempt to fool people into getting vaccinated. And, you wonder why people are less trusting of doctors, now.
I don’t know a single doctor who is in favor of mandates
Most doctors reviewed the studies put out by Pfizer and CDC and agreed that the data looked good. Most doctors are still under the assumption that our medical agencies are not politicized. They are now learning they were wrong.
Aside from a handful of crazy doctors (Fauci, Avengo, etc. ) most doctors don’t agree with this shite.
The problem is the media will only give the microphone to the doctors who say what they want (even though they are the minority)
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:23 am to moneyg
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why? We aren't discussing whether it matters from a treatment perspective. We are discussing the hidden and manipulated statistics meant to drive behavior and acceptance.
Because pathophysiologies are not neatly delineated. There are situations where labeling someone as a 'death from COVID' is wrong (like accident casualties), but in clinical terms it isn't as easy as you guys are insisting.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:25 am to WaWaWeeWa
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The problem is the media will only give the microphone to the doctors who say what they want
Our government is complicit with the media shutdown of ideas.
Again, my issue isn't with science, its with policy makers.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:26 am to moneyg
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I support freedom
That sounds great as a platitude. But obesity doesn't exist in a vacuum; it has social consequences outside of one's personal health. Whether you like it or not, you're picking up the tab on that.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:28 am to Ingeniero
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; it has social consequences
A statists wet dream.
Everything has social consequences. Get used to it, that's how life works. Legislating to fight it never works.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:34 am to Ingeniero
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That sounds great as a platitude. But obesity doesn't exist in a vacuum; it has social consequences outside of one's personal health. Whether you like it or not, you're picking up the tab on that.
I still support freedom
You seem to be unwilling to admit what you support.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:34 am to lsupride87
EUA has a lower evidentiary thresh hold and you know it. Lots of rigor is either cut out of the process, greatly abbreviated, or reviewed post market with EUA versus NDA processes.
FDA
FDA
The FDA even outlines some of these expedited steps on their site. Many of the steps that were followed were done in parallel in order to save time as outlined by warp speed.
If there was no difference between EUA and traditional NDA process, why do we need EUA? Dont lash out at me because your beloved vaccines arent working as promised.
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The EUA process is different than an FDA approval or clearance. Under an EUA, in an emergency, the FDA makes a product available to the public based on the best available evidence, without waiting for all the evidence that would be needed for FDA approval or clearance.
FDA
FDA
The FDA even outlines some of these expedited steps on their site. Many of the steps that were followed were done in parallel in order to save time as outlined by warp speed.
If there was no difference between EUA and traditional NDA process, why do we need EUA? Dont lash out at me because your beloved vaccines arent working as promised.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:35 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:yes, it does. However, The vaccine is not under EUA anymore….
EUA has a lower evidentiary thresh hold and you know it
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If there was no difference between EUA and traditional NDA process, why do we need EUA? Dont lash out at me because your beloved vaccines arent working as promised.
Nice ad hominem attack. Yes, to get the vaccine out quicker, it was released under EUA. Then, it passed full approval. So again, what tests were skipped?
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:36 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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What's weird is I've seen you notate the difference between infection and severe illness vaccine protection in other threads but vast majority of the time you purposely avoid the distinction.
Because the narrative has changed. We are not sure what the true numbers are of those severely ill with covid vs because of covid. The CDC has even announced they will be reanalyzing the death count to distinguish between the two and they recently started making that distinction with kids in the hospital. I think it was greatly overblown to get more people to take the vaccine. The data is constantly changing so why have faith in it?
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:37 am to lsupride87
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I lost monumental respect from the medical field for not having the courage to speak against the Dr. O’Neal’s and Avegnos of them world
I am sure they are all crushed
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:38 am to stout
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The data is constantly changing so why have faith in it?
Because they are shamed for disagreeing with the narrative.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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A statists wet dream.
Everything has social consequences. Get used to it, that's how life works. Legislating to fight it never works
You are quite literally the only one bringing up legislation. You're building strawmans that have nothing to do with what I'm saying.
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I still support freedom
You seem to be unwilling to admit what you support
Not sure what you're getting at. I said that people should try to be healthier because obesity doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's what I support.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So, the entire vaccine narrative has been destroyed.
Remember when we were told it would keep the disease from spreading?
Suckers
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:40 am to Ingeniero
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Not sure what you're getting at.
Of course not. You're arguing that some vague social cost should be considered then turning around and saying it doesn't matter.
You have no clue what you're trying to convey and you're all over the place.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:42 am to stout
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I am sure they are all crushed
Multiple covidians talking out both sides of the mouth in this thread.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:44 am to genuineLSUtiger
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Remember when we were told it would keep the disease from spreading?
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Suckers
Fact
The reason people initially rushed to get the vaccine was so life would return to "normal."
There are people in power who desperately want this to be the new normal.
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