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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any

Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40588 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:34 am to
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You're so brilliant. Yes, biden was presedent in March of 2020!

The OT, ladies and gents.


The vaccine wasn't available then.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22109 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:36 am to
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You're so brilliant. Yes, biden was presedent in March of 2020!

The OT, ladies and gents.



What vaccine did you get in March 2020?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:36 am to
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and that some risks had to be taken



I'm fine with that. Science does what it does, government holds it back.

Its the misrepresentation by our government that I've had enough of.

Remember "the science is settled?" Science is never settled. The idiots claiming its "settled" are absolutely retards. Sure things change, but the reason I mistrust this entire fiasco is the lies, not the science.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108546 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:36 am to
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You're so brilliant. Yes, biden was presedent in March of 2020!

You took the covid 19 vaccine in March of 2020? Impressive
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:37 am to
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You guys are utterly obsessed with the '2-dose' narrative, as though nothing could change or that narrative could be informed by trying to get people vaccinated


What do you mean "narrative could be informed by trying to get people vaccinated"?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71067 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:38 am to
Oh ok, so I just need to keep getting boosted into perpetuity to protect myself from the sniffles



Start licking handrails people.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:39 am to
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You took the covid 19 vaccine in March of 2020? Impressive


Sorry, first week of Jan was the first. Second was in March.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3868 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:40 am to
There is nothing legitimate that shows the vaccinnated are more at risk of death and hospitalization. Anybody that says otherwise are Q level nut jobs. And I’ve been loudly anti-mandates for jabs and mask since day one. They are Orwellian and against American values. However confirmation bias is at an all time high and needs to be called out no matter what side it comes from.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37718 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:40 am to
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Sorry, first week of Jan was the first. Second was in March.


2021…….
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46173 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:40 am to
Pfizer CEO March 2021: “Two doses of the vaccine offers 95% lasting protection and is robust against variants!"
Pfizer CEO August 2021: "Two doses will keep you out of the hospital or from dying!"
Pfizer CEO in December 2021: "Two doses of the vaccine will give protection similar to a seasonal flu shot!"
Pfizer CEO in January 2022: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any"
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:40 am to
Yeah..not 2020.

I scheduled my first one in Dec 2020, got the shot in Jan, follow up first week of march. I got my second in March 2021.

My health took a sharp turn, doc said to hold off on boosters until after I see how cancer meds are doing.

Not doing boosters, not worried in the least about the latest variant.

This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:41 am to
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What do you mean "narrative could be informed by trying to get people vaccinated"?


As in, choosing a 2-dose strategy, including the interval, was based on the desire for vaccination rather than evidence that plasma cell response was fully primed.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22109 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:41 am to
Huh. Who was president in March 2021?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37718 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:42 am to
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There is nothing legitimate that shows the vaccinnated are more at risk of death and hospitalization.


A healthy 90 year old that is triple vaccinated is more at risk for death and hospitalization than an unvaccinated, heathy, 20 year old.



You owe me $5



Outlandish age difference aside..

You can take a couple 21 year old males. One is super healthy, active, etc but is unvaccinated. The other is a lazy 300 pound lardass that is triple vaccinated.

The triple vaccinated lardass 21 year old is still at a higher risk level than the super healthy unvaccinated 21 year old.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:53 am to
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If it’s “with covid” it’s more impressive for the vaccine. That means it’s preventing severe illness for everything


What's impressive is your ability to avoid the "selective testing" part.

But, hey, dishonesty is ok if it furthers your argument and supports your opinion, right?

Sampling is everything when it comes to statistics. It's very easy to manipulate things if you have your thumb on the scale. And, if you test "some people" instead of "all people" when they show up at the hospital, it's not meaningful. And, when you test "some people" based on their vaccination status, it actually skews the data in a direct manner to what you are trying to use the data for.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108546 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:55 am to
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And, if you test "some people" instead of "all people" when they show up at the hospital, it's not meaningful.
And where have you and others gathered this information?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46173 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:55 am to
You arent paying attention. There are some studies out of Denmark and Germany that draw links to the vaccine and long term degradation of the immune system that makes the vaccinated 8X more likely to contract Omicron.
LINK
There was also the recent report that excess deaths are up 40%, many of those deaths are not covid related. This is drawing attention to to the response and how it has impacted non-covid related deaths.
LINK
We already know that the vaccine itself is the most deadly ever recorded by the VAERS metric, with over 20,000 deaths and over 36,000 permanently disabled.
LINK

There's a reason the FDA's traditional process is so rigorous and time consuming. Did we honestly think we could pull this off in just a few months without a hell of a lot of eggs being broken?

Again, there are questions that need to be asked and answered here, but if you want to call everyone who asks questions a "Q-Tard", help yourself. Its a free country for now.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:55 am to
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It really isn't


yikes
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108546 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:55 am to
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There's a reason the FDA's traditional process is so rigorous and time consuming. Did we honestly think we could pull this off in just a few months without a hell of a lot of eggs being broken?
Tell us what testing steps were skipped
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:57 am to
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yikes


Define this 'with Covid'/'from Covid' distinction for me in clinical terms. Because it seems to be based on a very limited notion of this virus in particular.
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