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People who think they are smart because they pay cash for their cars

Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3658 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:39 pm
Your guys need to look up this Finance 101 concept called 'Time Value of Money'.

If you can finance the car at a rate that's lower than what you typically make out of your investments, you should choose to finance instead of paying cash, even if you can afford to pay for the car fully using cash.

Dave Ramsey's School of Economics is only for the simple minded and for people with no financial disciple; it should not be the norm.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32984 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:40 pm to
Okay Warren buffet. Whatever you say.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:41 pm to
Dave Ramsey would probably say it’s a bad idea, financially, to purchase a new car.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:42 pm to
Does that take into account that I don't need full coverage if it's paid off? Honest question.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18579 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Your guys need to look up this Finance 101 concept called 'Time Value of Money'. If you can finance the car at a rate that's lower than what you typically make out of your investments, you should choose to finance instead of paying cash, even if you can afford to pay for the car fully using cash. Dave Ramsey's School of Economics is only for the simple minded and for people with no financial disciple; it should not be the norm.


Except that I don't have to carry collision insurance, dumbass. That means I save thousands of dollars a year by bearing my own physical risk of loss. If you finance a car, you don't have that option.

Oh, yeah. And I get a better deal by paying cash.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106129 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

if you can finance the car at a rate that's lower than what you typically make out of your investments


This almost never happens unless

You get lucky with highly speculative investments or

You can take a business deduction for the interest paid.

Average baw is not likely to have either scenario in his favor.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5168 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:42 pm to
Like paying 100k cash for a car has any bearing on the financial well being for somebody that can drop 100k cash on a car.


Posted by glaceau
Member since Nov 2017
76 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:44 pm to
First of it all depends on the rate. The awesome car rates are for only brand new cars. Which buying a brand new car is retarded in itself. When buying a used car the best rates make it difficult for your line of thinking.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19853 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:45 pm to
No matter how much money I make I don't like having large monthly bills for depreciating assets. My cars are not factored into my investments they are factored into my entertainment.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:45 pm to
I pay cash because I don’t need to use Ford Motor Credit as a wealth builder in my portfolio.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
9011 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:45 pm to
Ramsey’s rule is don’t borrow money ever. Extreme but it’s a cornerstone of his program. I don’t follow it but can understand how it’d work for the unwashed masses.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54241 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:47 pm to
Lol you’re a poor
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18395 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:51 pm to
Because we all know finance companies are foreign to the concept of the time value of money.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:51 pm to
If you have cash on hand in today's climate, it isn't making squat interest-wise. Even a great APR of 2 percent outpaces most money market interest rates today, so you'd lose money on the financing.

The money you have in the market should not be considered cash, even though it may be liquid. It needs to stay in the market, so it can keep generating interest.

If you're pulling investment money out to buy a car, then, yes, that is dumb.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:52 pm to
So, not having a $500/monthly bill is bad?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99045 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

That means I save thousands of dollars a year by bearing my own physical risk of loss.


I don't pay close to $1,000 a year for collision
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79884 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
Ramsey is a multitime bankrupt millionaire that lectures people on how they should save money.

He made his millions off selling books to people who are bad with money.

Basically a con man getting rich off selling his method to get rich.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
Yeah I get that I just don't like the burden of payments on anything.

frick that.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17243 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

So, not having a $500/monthly bill is bad?


When you take $30,000+ out of a compounding interest account/investment to do so yes.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4564 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Ramsey’s rule is don’t borrow money ever. Extreme but it’s a cornerstone of his program. I don’t follow it but can understand how it’d work for the unwashed masses.


If you look at who Ramsey caters to, you'd know why he takes extreme positions such as this.
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