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re: People who choose to not have kids
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:37 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:37 pm to Jon Ham
I get what you’re saying but every time I read a story about a parent malnourishing their child, locking them in cages and treating them like animals, or killing them and trying to hide their bodies in the woods, I wish these people would have decided not to have a kid.
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:38 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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we all know poor people ain't stopping.
Pay men for vasectomies. Pay women for tubal ligation/IUD.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
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you must sacrifice everything for your kids. Especially if you're a woman. We see it all the time on social media with people who are constantly pushing articles on how to be a "better" parent, shaming women who don't breastfeed, etc. Then you have the rising cost of "competiting" with others when it comes to raising your kids.
here's a few suggestions for you going forward and I want you to make this your New Years Resolution.
1. Get off social media
2. Get new friends
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:42 pm to tgrbaitn08
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here's a few suggestions for you going forward and I want you to make this your New Years Resolution.
1. Get off social media
2. Get new friends
Most of my friends are good. I see this working in education for the most part. And social media doesn't bother me, but I'm not going to sit here and be naive that the opinion of others doesn't influence how people make decisions. We see that in all facets of life.
The fact that y'all want to act like your circle of friends are perfect probably says more about you than me.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:43 pm to TexasTiger89
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I think this is true but most that I have met that choose to not have kids are pretty self centered people.
Well...yeah. A lot of self centered people have kids who grow up to be resentful assholes. So, good for them for not having kids.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:44 pm to Fight4LSU
These threads always devolve to such dumb arguments. Not every person who has multiple kids either live vicariously through them or neglect them. Not every person who decides not to have kids is doing so because they want to prevent the passing on of their Huntington's disease.
I take it that the op is specifically talking about people like Pecker. It is well known that he and his wife are smart earners who don't want to have kids. Not because of disease, but they simply don't want them (as he says). He is the type of person who should be encouraged to have a child or two to promote the betterment of the human race.
If the smart, successful people with good values stop having kids, the future will be very dark.
I take it that the op is specifically talking about people like Pecker. It is well known that he and his wife are smart earners who don't want to have kids. Not because of disease, but they simply don't want them (as he says). He is the type of person who should be encouraged to have a child or two to promote the betterment of the human race.
If the smart, successful people with good values stop having kids, the future will be very dark.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:44 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The fact that y'all want to act like your circle of friends are perfect probably says more about you than me
not perfect
just not nearly as miserable as you and others are painting people with kids
that is the problem with all of these threads, they are generally just full of so much hyperbole between people trying to rationalize their decisions
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:44 pm to SBvital
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It disappoints me when a couple chooses not to though
why do you care how other people chose to live their lives?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:46 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The fact that y'all want to act like your circle of friends are perfect probably says more about you than me.
frick no...I've got some decent friends, some of them are kind of lame...but I'll be the first to admit I have some fricking degenerate friends as well.....but they are my degenerates and we know how to have a good time
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:47 pm to Salmon
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just not nearly as miserable as you and others are painting people with kids
Where did I paint people with kids as all miserable? I know plenty of people who have great relationships and have great kids. But we're discussing why people make the decision to not have kids. And lots of valid reasons have been discussed but yet you throw out comments like "well there's something wrong with them".
Why do you keep trying to discredit people who disagree with you by painting such a broad brush of people who don't want kids?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:48 pm to CptBengal
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no it isnt. Should we define biology, imbecile?
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i actually said it was amental defect, imbecile.
Get a thesaurus..........
imbecile.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:49 pm to Jon Ham
quote:this is funny because this is what people with kids do
watching Netflix, going to Whole Foods, and keeping up with what their friends are doing on Facebook.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:51 pm to lsunurse
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Or when you see parents that basically worship their children. They think they are being these amazing parents by putting their children first in every single faucet of their lives. Their kids rule them basically.
We all know people like this nowadays. Instead they are actually failing at parenting and raising children that won't know how to think for themselves or solve their own problems in life.
Another type of parent.... are those who wants to make sure their kids "one up" everyone.
I'll give you an example. Someone I know has three kids. There was a time when their oldest kid's peers all started going to Disney world so they planned their trip.. However; they didn't just plan a trip, they went all out and bought a timeshare. Because when other people talked about going to Disney, they were able to say "yeah, we have a timeshare. We already been x amount of times".. But now, that's the only place they go.. otherwise the timeshare would be a complete waste of money.. With that said, it is still wasting money, because they don't go as many times as the timeshare allows them to go..
Same parents. Several years ago within a certain time, two of his friends bought the same type of family vehicle. The week after the 2nd friend purchased theirs, he comes home with a new one.. But the one he purchased was the most expensive package, fully loaded, etc. There are other things like this that they do, but when something becomes "popular" or "trendy", their kids expect to get the best of whatever it is. The wife currently works two jobs because it gets expensive trying to stay ahead of everyone else...
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:52 pm to Jon Ham
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People who say they aren't having kids are basically saying everything their ancestors went through and ovecame to allow their existence were so that they could enjoy ~80 easy years watching Netflix, going to Whole Foods, and keeping up with what their friends are doing on Facebook. Thats what this whole thing we call reality has been about - its culmination is your weak little coddled life where you get to be happy and content without any responsibility but to make sure you stay happy and content. Your ancestors traversed oceans, survived the Black Plague, and killed others so you could watch Gilmore Girls and eat ice cream straight from the box.
no, I'm saying/said I'm far too selfish to have kids. I don't want them. I don't want the joys of being a dad to interfere with the joys of being an adult male doing his own thing with only a wife to worry about/consider. I don't want to enter into a societal obligation knowing I wont honor my commitment.
None of the inane gibberish you offered in your cathartic post ever occured to me as I realized I didnt want offspring. What was galring to me was the fact that I never really cared for children at any point in my life.
I don't hate them, I just don't care for them. I view them like I do cruises. They are fine for those who like and enjoy them, but they arent for me. So I dont have any. I think I took the higher road realizing I wouldn't be a very good father and not having them.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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We should be encouraging more people to not have kids. Especially ones who have no business raising them.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Where did I paint people with kids as all miserable?
the vast majority of your comments in this thread
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you throw out comments like "well there's something wrong with them".
yes? and?
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Why do you keep trying to discredit people who disagree with you by painting such a broad brush of people who don't want kids?
I'm not Go back and read your posts in this thread
And the only thing I have said is that healthy people that choose to not have kids have some type of mental defect, whether caused by their biology or their environment.
I stand by that.
And it isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I don't care if people don't have kids. I agree that most people shouldn't have them.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:00 pm to Jon Ham
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People who choose to not have kids
These threads are always pathetic. This one did not disappoint.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:01 pm to Salmon
Arguing with people on TD is your favorite isn't it?
You and rickdaddy.
Two peas in pod.
You and rickdaddy.
Two peas in pod.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:02 pm to Salmon
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And the only thing I have said is that healthy people that choose to not have kids have some type of mental defect, whether caused by their biology or their environment.
quote:I don't see how anyone can disagree with this
And it isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:02 pm to R11
It is fantastic at killing boredom, yes.
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