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re: People who are coughing and spitting on others- Protect with Lethal force?

Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19268 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:45 pm to
Yes
John Wesley Hardin Shot a man for snoring i read about it in a time life book
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1844 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:18 pm to
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Killing someone who coughs on you is not placing you in imminent danger.


How is it not imminent danger? If you are old and/or compromised, and someone claiming to have Covid-19 is coming after you and purposefully coughing, that seems pretty imminent.

I will text a lawyer and see if I can get an answer.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:21 pm to
Better text a shitty one because a good one is going to throw his phone in the furnace after being texted “can I shoot someone coughing on me if they have coronavirus?”
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:28 pm to
Better call Saul.
Posted by DampSocksOnSaturday
Denham Springs
Member since Sep 2016
73 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm to
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How is it not imminent danger? If you are old and/or compromised, and someone claiming to have Covid-19 is coming after you and purposefully coughing, that seems pretty imminent.


I see your point and agree there is an enhanced risk of death for someone in that age demographic and the argument for great bodily harm or death. The issue as I see it is how you define imminent danger. I just don’t see the similarities between someone coming at you with a knife where death is probable as opposed to someone coughing on you where death is possible weeks down the road.

Would be interested to see if there is any case law from previous pandemics that would set precedent.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:37 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm to
i think the argument can be made them coughing on you was the equivalent of using a weapon in the category of a knife against you

dont see how shooting would be a defense unless you were pinned down and had no way to separate. remember, a jury of idiots will decide if you go to jail or not

hell a guy is in jail now for shooting the 3 armed robbers who tried to rob his store. frickin DA wont even allow the guy out on bail
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:40 pm to
Given the fact that people like the hypothetical in question are being charged with terrorism, I think most juries would refuse to convict. And they honestly need to be removed from the gene pool if that is their form of entertainment.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5595 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:52 pm to
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You think it's ok to kill someone who coughed on you?


Abslomodafucnlutley.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:32 am to
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Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1844 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:13 pm to
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Better text a shitty one because a good one is going to throw his phone in the furnace after being texted “can I shoot someone coughing on me if they have coronavirus?”


I decided to call instead. They said in Louisiana, you can absolutely shoot them. If you fear death or grave bodily harm, you have the right to defend yourself. I'm sorry if that upsets your world view.
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1844 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Would be interested to see if there is any case law from previous pandemics that would set precedent.


Your argument is that because the death would take two weeks, it isn't imminent?

Knowingly infecting someone with HIV was a felony when HIV was a death sentence. Some states are rolling back those laws now.

Drinking antifreeze doesn't kill you instantly, but it will kill you. If someone was trying to force antifreeze down my throat, I would have no problem shooting them.
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