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re: people stranded in NOLA by Katrina - victims or willing participants?
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:09 am to Ancient Astronaut
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:09 am to Ancient Astronaut
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Katrina was fast moving and became a monster over night. By the time people saw it was a real threat it was too late leave.
I remember that Friday eating at the Hooters out in the wank with my boss and our work crew. I had just got promoted and got a pass to six flags and a gift certificate to Houston's. We were talking about the storm and how we would probably not have work until Wednesday. The city was destroyed on Monday, and I never saw any of those people again. A week later I was living in Mobile and Baton Rouge (gettin up for 4am for work) and working in Biloxi. Crazy how things can just change like that.
Katrina came so fast, and I think people forget how fast that weekend was.
The evacuation was ordered on the 28th.
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:10 am to choupiquesushi
We evacuated for most hurricanes, including Katrina, but my extended family has a nice place to gather in cenLA and we have had some good times during evacuations.
For people without a place to go, it is a lot harder and I won't judge them for taking their chances.
For the major storms, anyone who can should definitely GET OUT.
For people without a place to go, it is a lot harder and I won't judge them for taking their chances.
For the major storms, anyone who can should definitely GET OUT.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:11 am to Napoleon
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In all seriousness we wouldn't have flooded in Jefferson parish, had that corrupt a-hole Broussard not decided to turn off all the pumps and then keep the workers a five hour drive away
My grandparents live on Bissonet Drive, about three blocks from the lake and within a mile of the pumping station. They were the only house on their block to suffer any interior damage from water infiltration. Like you said, they would have been fine if the bastards would have just turned on the pumps.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:11 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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so no repeat of Katrina will happen again
I truly believe that it will never happen again. At least not in my lifetime.
I've seen first hand the system that they have in place to protect the city and surrounding areas.....it wont happen again
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:13 am to choupiquesushi
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I mean everyone knew the storm was coming - if you stayed back in a city below sea level - you weren't really a "victim" but a willing participant.
I'm sure the poor and invalids and sick people with no expendable income whatsoever were willing participants. Must have been like a free vacation!
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:13 am to tgrbaitn08
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Had one that lived right across the street from me, he worked for the Corps. We both had 4' of water in our homes.
I guess he just didnt care about losing his house and displacing his wife and 4 kids for almost 2 years that it took him to rebuild his house.
They didn't know. At the spot of the breach in the 17th street canal was a heavy peat bottom. The pilings did not go deep enough into the soil below the peat. Some have said this was where a canal long ago crossed another canal that later became the 17th street canal. Someone in the corps, years ago fudged papers to make it seem like the pilings were longer then they were. This didn't come to light until the old pilings were removed.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:13 am to choupiquesushi
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I mean everyone knew the storm was coming - if you stayed back in a city below sea level - you weren't really a "victim" but a willing participant.
All the elderly and sick who perished in nursing homes And hospitals or their homes? Were they willing participants ? I suppose they should have yanked out IVs and wheeled themselves out of town right
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:15 am to tgrbaitn08
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I've seen first hand the system that they have in place to protect the city and surrounding areas.....it wont happen again
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:16 am to Napoleon
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At the spot of the breach in the 17th street canal was a heavy peat bottom. The pilings did not go deep enough into the soil below the peat. Some have said this was where a canal long ago crossed another canal that later became the 17th street canal. Someone in the corps, years ago fudged papers to make it seem like the pilings were longer then they were
Yeah this isn't some crazy tin foil hat thing. It's just a corrupt city fact.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:18 am to LNCHBOX
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What does that have to do with a barge hitting it?
I'm not talking about the lower ninth. I'm talking about Lakeview. Where I lived and everything I owned disappeared.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:19 am to bigrob385series
I don't see why it is funny. It is a FACT that New Orleans would of been mostly spared had the levees held. Now in addition to fixing the levees they can now block the flow of water at all canals, and bayou St. John. They have closed the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, they have raised the height of levees and now all pump workers will be kept at the stations in safe houses.
If Katrina hit in 2015 rather than 2005 it would be a different story. Though we would never have got the upgrades with out the destruction.
If Katrina hit in 2015 rather than 2005 it would be a different story. Though we would never have got the upgrades with out the destruction.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:23 am to bigrob385series
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bigrob385series
whats funny?
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:25 am to LNCHBOX
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No way to anticipate the levee being damaged so catastrophically.
I remember reading about the possibility of levee overtopping in the Times Picayune around the time of Hurricane George. I think it was a CAT 4 that was predicted to overtop the levees back then. Because the breaches were so widespread, the actual floods were almost as predicted for overtopping. I lucked out and my house by City Park only got a couple inches of water.
After the storm, it came out the levees were built incorrectly and maintained poorly. Some insiders knew; I wish there had been a whistleblower.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:25 am to Napoleon
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Now in addition to fixing the levees they can now block the flow of water at all canals, and bayou St. John. They have closed the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, they have raised the height of levees and now all pump workers will be kept at the stations in safe houses.
not to mention the massive pumps at all 3 of the outfall canals that can pump out the rain water
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:28 am to LNCHBOX
I'm at work but people discussed New Orleans flooding from a hurricane all the time.
Mississippi even considered building a refugee camp near the border in Hancock County a few years before Katrina. Finding an article on thay may be difficult considering the time frame and any search now would result in Katrina articles.
Probably the only time Mississippi showed any proactive or clever thinking it's entire history
Mississippi even considered building a refugee camp near the border in Hancock County a few years before Katrina. Finding an article on thay may be difficult considering the time frame and any search now would result in Katrina articles.
Probably the only time Mississippi showed any proactive or clever thinking it's entire history
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:31 am to tgrbaitn08
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I truly believe that it will never happen again. At least not in my lifetime.
I believe this too. Not an engineer, but it looks like a better system than we had before.
New Orleans is much better in many ways than it was before the storm.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:31 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Mississippi got buttfricked by Katrina.
I will say one of the saddest things is that people remember Katrina as the hurricane that hit new Orleans. But it should be remembered as the hurricane the smacked the Gulf Coast. Nola got lucky it didn't veer left before landfall.
I will say one of the saddest things is that people remember Katrina as the hurricane that hit new Orleans. But it should be remembered as the hurricane the smacked the Gulf Coast. Nola got lucky it didn't veer left before landfall.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:35 am to Breesus
Ya it wasn't fun.
I got back down there about 3 days after. Crazy stuff.
I got back down there about 3 days after. Crazy stuff.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:49 am to Breesus
I have pictures of the Casinos on the other side of the highway. Every house out there was destroyed. The Jefferson Davis home looked like a goner.
My uncle's house near the coast was wiped out completely with only the steps to the front left. My grandparent's on the Jordan river had their house overtopped.
It was just a bad time for the entire area. I did always think Mississippi got it worse initially, but the water receded. In NOLA that water was around for a month.
My uncle's house near the coast was wiped out completely with only the steps to the front left. My grandparent's on the Jordan river had their house overtopped.
It was just a bad time for the entire area. I did always think Mississippi got it worse initially, but the water receded. In NOLA that water was around for a month.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:47 am to Napoleon
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In all seriousness we wouldn't have flooded in Jefferson parish, had that corrupt a-hole Broussard not decided to turn off all the pumps and then keep the workers a five hour drive away.
Broussard was a corrupt a-hole, but it wasn't entirely his fault. The infrastructure wasn't there to keep the workers in town to turn on the pumps. That goes beyond Broussard. Did I want to lose everything that I owned? No. But I'd rather that than leave the pump operators in town without any sort of hurricane shelter. Those guys shouldn't have been exposed to a risk of grave harm in order to keep water out of my house.
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