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re: People be hypnotizin women on Grambling’s campus

Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

All you morons saying “was” is incorrect must have gone to public school. The noun (subject) is “group”- so the verb is “was”

“Students”-even though it is next to the verb- is the object of a preposition and NOT the noun (subject).

Do you guys even subject-verb agreement bro??


Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49901 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:02 pm to
What is you talkin about
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4947 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

quote: a group of female students was approached

Definitely written by a Grambling student.


Better passive voice than active racism.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85846 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

All you morons saying “was” is incorrect must have gone to public school. The noun (subject) is “group”- so the verb is “was”


Dang baw, and all this time I thought dat gwoup of ducks was flyin.


It being a group of students, makes it were.

Like a group of birds were flying.


The group was late.



This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

It being a group of students, makes it were.

Like a group of birds were flying.


The group was late.


So, you are saying that "group of" is an adjective? We have reached the American language
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85846 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

So, you are saying that "group of" is an adjective? We have reached the American language


quote:

a group of female students


It depends if the group is a single entity or not. The person expressing this made a point to acknowledge it’s a group of plural students. The correct term here is were.

Arguing otherwise is dumb as frick.

I would like to acknowledge none of my public schooling was done in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 10:26 pm
Posted by LSU75
just happy to be here
Member since Jan 2005
907 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:33 pm to
That’s actually correct grammar. “Group” is the noun. And it is singular.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42126 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:29 am to
quote:

Definitely written by a Grambling student.




It's correct grammar.

"A group ________ was approached".

The subject is the group, not the female students.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42126 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:33 am to
quote:

It depends if the group is a single entity or not.



No, there is a SINGLE group of multiple students. If he was talking about multiple groups of students, then you'd be right. But the article says "a group of female students".
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42126 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:36 am to
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I thought dat gwoup of ducks was flyin.


"That group of ducks was flying" is grammatically correct.

You wouldn't say "That group were flying", so you shouldn't say "That group of ducks were flying".
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 12:40 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30029 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:51 am to
Agreed.

This is fairly simple:

quote:

a group of female students was approached by two male subjects


The words "of female students" is a prepositional phrase made up of the preposition (of), the object (students) and the modifier (females). Subject verb agreement follows the subject not the object. The subject in this case is "group" which is singular so you use the singular verb "was". The prepositional phrase can be removed "a group was approached by two male subjects" which makes it more clear that "was" is correct.

This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 1:13 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133375 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:52 am to
quote:

It's correct grammar. "A group ________ was approached". The subject is the group, not the female students.


Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133375 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:56 am to
quote:

Like a group of birds were flying.


A collective of birds would be a flock (there are other species specific terms as well)

You wouldn't say "a flock of geese were flying"

You are are losing this, badly.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60706 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:57 am to
Two male subjects approached a group of female students

FIFY

Eliminates the passive was / were
Tightens up message to convey
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42126 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:57 am to
Probably
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60706 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:59 am to
So, 2 brothers were Hypnotoading some sistah's and po po shows up. My question is if they were good enough to mind control the women, why could they not mind control the po po?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133375 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:59 am to
No, I was saying the poster you were replying to played himself.

Look, there are plenty of examples of awful journalism grammatically, but the piece he chose showed his own ignorance.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:08 am to
quote:

You wouldn't say "a flock of geese were flying"

You are are losing this, badly.


If the collective noun refers to the group as a unit, then it takes a singular verb. If it refers to the individuals in the group or the parts that make up the group, then the verb should be plural.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:11 am to
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Do you guys even subject-verb agreement bro??
In subject/verb agreement, always take out the prepositional phrases first.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30029 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:14 am to
quote:

Eliminates the passive was / were



Agreed the use of passive voice is why the original poster got confused and confusion is the main reaosn to avoid passive voice.
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