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re: People are driven by fear.

Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
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've never told anyone that if you're referring to me. I will laugh at you when you get shut out of things though because you exercised your autonomy over your body. Not you specifically, because I don't know your vaccination status, nor really care to know. I think the "personal freedom" argument is pathetically weak and stupid. We live in a modern society and with that there are some sacrifices you sometime have to make for the betterment of your community. Thank god people generations before me got their polio and smallpox vaccines - two diseases eradicated through immunizations.

But wave your personal freedom flag while we roll down the hill towards being a third world country riddled with a disease that could be minimized with better immunization rates.

This is the exact attitude that authoritarians use to back door their bullshite. It's fricking hilarious that people like you, who previously screamed to the heavens about how large multinational corporations teaming up with government was the end of democracy, now demand that these two entities team up to the nth degree in order to make the lives of every person who doesn't comply essentially unlivable. And you do it with a snarky, smug callousness that makes me wish nothing but the absolute worst things in life for you.

And the only reason we'd descend into a third world shithole is because people like you demanding that we give even the most precious things we own - our bodies - to a faceless bureaucratic machine without asking questions because it makes you feel better.

And for the record, I've been vaccinated for almost 5 months now, but I can still get it from you and give it to you so your daily hissyfits over the unvaccinated ruining everything are absolute horseshite. At this point, it's like wearing a condom with a hole in it.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
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I listened to Bill Burr last night. He was talking conspiracy theories. He said he loves them but the covid/vaccine* conspiracies didn't make sense to him. If you believe it's about reducing population, why would the government push the vaccines* so hard? Why would they use a vaccine* to get rid of people?


Exactly. Like the Government wants to get rid of everyone that takes the vax and be left with only conspiracy theorists, blacks, and illegal immigrants. That makes 0 sense. If anything the vax is protection from what they are gonna release on the non vaxxed if you want to go the conspiracy theory route.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18849 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:15 pm to
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the Government wants to get rid of everyone that takes the vax and be left with only conspiracy theorists, blacks, and illegal immigrants.


Sounds pretty close to what they actually would want left, as long as the conspiracy theorists are of the Russian collusion variety not the vax variety
Posted by illinitiger
North then South
Member since Feb 2009
3302 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:17 pm to
This is what happens when life in a society is too easy, too comfortable. I think evolution has always driven our fear, when a society literally has no want unfulfilled or worry for anything they make up fears. A virus with a 99.98% survival rate is this centuries biggest fear. Unlike a couple of centuries ago when if you didn't find food that day you may die.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:17 pm to
Well they aren’t they are the trump won conspiracy kind, so again, it makes 0 sense.

You think they want to be left with only people who won’t do what they want? Of course not, they would get rid of those people if they were getting rid of anyone.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Well they aren’t they are the trump won conspiracy kind, so again, it makes 0 sense.

Yeah, why should people ask questions when the government basically removed damn near all the voting integrity laws then refused to conduct even a cursory forensic audit?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:28 pm to
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And the only reason we'd descend into a third world shithole is because people like you demanding that we give even the most precious things we own - our bodies



Again, I've never demanded that.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65127 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:33 pm to
Nah fam they want the tax payers to remain. Thats non vaxers
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10935 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:33 pm to
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A mandated vacccine is totalitarianism?


Yes, yes it is. It's actually the definition.

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Vaccines have ben mandated to do certain things for years, I had to show proof of vaccinations to get into college.

Where have you been the last 50 years? Did you just crawl out of a cave 6 months ago?


So fricking what? Just because certain vaccine's have been historically required for college doesn't make it right or good.

Historically Hitler killed the Jews so it's ok. That's what you are saying. Because it happened before it's perfectly fine?

shite argument. Do better commie.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3572 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Concentration camps?




This vaccine underwent a multinational, placebo-controlled, observer-blinded, efficacy trial involving 43,000 people, then was injected 4 billion times under intense worldwide scrutiny, then was FDA approved for use, and you’re drawing comparisons to concentration camps and starvation?


Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:36 pm to
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This vaccine underwent a multinational, placebo-controlled, observer-blinded, efficacy trial involving 43,000 people, then was injected 4 billion times under intense worldwide scrutiny, then was FDA approved for use, and you’re drawing comparisons to concentration camps and starvation?






Among the many things this pandemic has exposed, one is the complete failure of our education system to teach people about the Nazi regime.
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:37 pm to
You forgot Fear of taking an effective shot.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138096 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:38 pm to
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This vaccine underwent a multinational, placebo-controlled, observer-blinded, efficacy trial involving 43,000 people, then was injected 4 billion times under intense worldwide scrutiny, then was FDA approved for use, and you’re drawing comparisons to concentration camps and starvation?

I mean, Australia is pretty much building concentration camps as we speak. Some of y'all need to read the news before shitting on every idea you think is "out there"
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
138096 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Again, I've never demanded that.

You haven't demanded it yet you say you hope it happens? You're splitting hairs and trying to leave yourself an out to avoid the authoritarian label.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10935 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:41 pm to
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Among the many things this pandemic has exposed, one is the complete failure of our education system to teach people about the Nazi regime.


That's rich, coming from a nazi that supports requiring papers to travel freely.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:45 pm to
Hope and demand are not synonyms, and I don't think I've even used the word hope. But it's possible I did.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138096 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Hope and demand are not synonyms,

It's the exact same in this case. Again, you're splitting hairs so you can feel good about yourself, which is a cornerstone of your chosen ideology.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73134 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:48 pm to
they peppered sprayed a 12 year old girl in handcuffs this week and arrested 8 teenage boys and fined them $1k a piece for hanging out.

we have a lot of OT COVIDIANS thirsty for this level of authoritarianism.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5782 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:48 pm to
wave terror

intense periods of fear broken up by periods of calm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138096 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:55 pm to
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we have a lot of OT COVIDIANS thirsty for this level of authoritarianism.

Again, these are the same people who said the president was worse than Hitler because he said mean things on the internet
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