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United flight from San Francisco is one of EIGHT planes put on lockdown at London Heathrow after passengers are suspected of having coronavirus 




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For the life of me I can’t understand why you think a respiratory virus would be more transmissible in China but not here. The flu starts in the East every year and it’s just as infectious here as it is there.


My biggest issue is how China has reported flu deaths in the past

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Data from previous years follows the same pattern. In 2016 and 2017, China reported only 56 and 41 deaths respectively, according to NHC data.
Meanwhile, the U.S. — which counts deaths by flu season, rather than year — saw an estimated 51,000 deaths in the 2016-2017 flu season, according to the country’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


If China is reporting what they are, there really is no way to tell what is actually happening. They have under reported prior. Or they were accurate and it means that Chinese people are almost impervious to influenzas.

Why arent Chinese people dying of the flu.? From Jan 2019


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If China is reporting what they are, there really is no way to tell what is actually happening. They have under reported prior. Or they were accurate and it means that Chinese people are almost impervious to influenzas.

Prepare thy anus


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Prepare thy anus
I am prepared


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slackster
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re: People are collapsing on Wuhan streets - ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL HEALTH EMERGENCY***
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For the life of me I can’t understand why you think a respiratory virus would be more transmissible in China but not here. The flu starts in the East every year and it’s just as infectious here as it is there.

The lack of cases in the US doesn’t say anything about the contagiousness of the virus. It speaks to our ability to quarantine and monitor individuals. An ability that can be easily over run when the number of imported cases reaches critical mass.


Let's think this through - the first US patient was in the US for 4 days with a cough and fever before seeking treatment. There hasn't been a single case linked to that patient.

The second case in Illinois gave it to her husband, the sixth case and the first person to person transmission in the US, but no one else.

The third, fourth, fifth, and seventh cases flew from Wuhan on separate flights, yet have had no cases branch off.

The eighth case flew from Wuhan with a runny nose but has had no cases spread from him.

Ninth case was a traveler from Wuhan who has had no cases branch off.

Tenth and eleventh case were a husband traveling back from Wuhan and his wife, the second person to person transmission.

Case #12 traveled from Beijing to Wisconsin and had interactions with known confirmed cases while abroad. No cases have originated from this case either.

Case #13, #14, and #15 are from Wuhan evacuees at 3 different quarantine locations. So far, there have been no cases spread from those patients.

So, for a virus that is wildly contagious in Wuhan, the only human to human transmissions in the states have been between spouses. There have been plenty of flights as well as symptomatic, unquarantined patients, yet no more transmissions.

How would you summarize COVID-19 in the US thus far, especially for a guy who has been highly critical of the US response?


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re: People are collapsing on Wuhan streets - ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL HEALTH EMERGENCY***
Egypt gotz the corona virus now


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re: People are collapsing on Wuhan streets - ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL HEALTH EMERGENCY***
has anybody said "Wuhan flu ain't nothin' to frick wit'" yet? if not, i'm saying it now.


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"Wuhan flu ain't nothin' to frick wit'" yet? if not, i'm saying it now.


We haven't been talking in clinical terms. You may need to dumb it down a bit


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We haven't been talking in clinical terms. You may need to dumb it down a bit


I'm not sure you got his reference.


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I think he got it dude


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We haven't been talking in clinical terms. You may need to dumb it down a bit





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I got it.


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I got it.



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slackster
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re: People are collapsing on Wuhan streets - ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL HEALTH EMERGENCY***
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If China is reporting what they are, there really is no way to tell what is actually happening. They have under reported prior. Or they were accurate and it means that Chinese people are almost impervious to influenzas.


FWIW, the US has the same discrepancy depending on the source you use. In 2001 the CDC's National Center of Health Statistics (NCHS) reported influenza and pneumonia deaths totaled 62,034. The deaths attributed to pneumonia were 61,777 and influenza was responsible for 257. Of those 257 deaths, only 18 were positively identified as the flu. The CDC explains this all by saying the flu often leads to other medical complications that lead to death, but the vast majority of these cases aren't tested for the influenza virus. As such, they use modelling to estimate the actual influenza-related deaths in the US and come up with a much larger number.

If there was a novel virus outbreak in the US that we were testing religiously, like China is now, I'd imagine we'd have a substantially higher confirmed death toll too.


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the first US patient was in the US for 4 days with a cough and fever before seeking treatment. There hasn't been a single case linked to that patient.

The second case in Illinois gave it to her husband, the sixth case and the first person to person transmission in the US, but no one else.

The third, fourth, fifth, and seventh cases flew from Wuhan on separate flights, yet have had no cases branch off.

The eighth case flew from Wuhan with a runny nose but has had no cases spread from him.

Ninth case was a traveler from Wuhan who has had no cases branch off.

Tenth and eleventh case were a husband traveling back from Wuhan and his wife, the second person to person transmission.

Case #12 traveled from Beijing to Wisconsin and had interactions with known confirmed cases while abroad. No cases have originated from this case either.

Case #13, #14, and #15 are from Wuhan evacuees at 3 different quarantine locations. So far, there have been no cases spread from those patients.



Good summary, don’t remember all the details like that... Now for the deaths outside of mainland China.

Japan - 80yr old female who’s son-in-law cab driver may have passed it to her
HK - 39yr old male w/ underlying health issues who visited Wuhan
Philippines - 44yr old male Wuhan resident

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HK - 39yr old male w/ underlying health issues who visited Wuhan


What were the underlying health issues?


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Wuhan, I got you all in check, said Dr. Rhymes as he administered the long awaited vaccine.


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A 39-year-old man who had visited Wuhan, China, where the virus first appeared, died at Hong Kong's Princess Margaret Hospital on Tuesday morning, the hospital confirmed.

The man, who had been to Wuhan on Jan. 21 and returned to Hong Kong aboard a high-speed train on Jan. 31, had unspecified underlying health issues, according to the Centre for Health Protection.


From NPR.org


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What were the underlying health issues?


Apparently he was a "long-term diabetic."

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rds dc
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Ontario’s first two cases of the new coronavirus — a husband and wife — have recovered but remain in isolation at their home because tests still show them carrying the bug, authorities say.

Nose and throat swabs taken since the man was released from Sunnybrook hospital two weeks ago continue to show traces of coronavirus in both him and his wife, who was never hospitalized.




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Also, reports in some foreign language papers today that doctors in Wuhan are reporting relapses. They are saying that the 2nd go round is much worse than first time. Taking this as rumor until something official from CDC on this.


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