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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:40 pm to
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dude practiced as a PE for 8 YEARS without a license


I mean, there' a difference in not having a license and having an expired license. And you can practice without a license as long as you have a supervising professional.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:41 pm to
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And you can practice without a license as long as you have a supervising professional.

which he did not
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:43 pm to
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The article said he had association with it a few years ago, but the project had a different scope then.
thx
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:44 pm to
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which he did not


Obviously, but your post was a little fake newsy for my taste.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:45 pm to
Another perhaps deceased worker identified

LINK

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One of three construction workers who did not emerge from the rubble after the half-built Hard Rock Hotel collapsed Saturday morning — and the only one whose name hasn’t been released — is a Mexican national, Mexico’s consulate in New Orleans said Tuesday.


quote:

It took longer to notify Ponce’s family about what had happened because most of his family lives in Mexico, Deluera said.


Let's hope he was here legally... otherwise... this got a bit more complex.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Let's hope he was here legally... otherwise... this got a bit more complex.


Have been waiting for this storyline to start
Posted by USMEagles
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:28 pm to
Geez, what a slap on the wrist! The dude illegally practices as a PE and they make him pay a few thousand dollars and take some goofy (probably online) tests? And now shite is falling down onto Rampart Street? What a shocking outcome that must be to people!
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Geez, what a slap on the wrist! The dude illegally practices as a PE and they make him pay a few thousand dollars and take some goofy (probably online) tests? And now shite is falling down onto Rampart Street? What a shocking outcome that must be to people!

that Zehner dude had nothing to do with the design or construction of the Hard Rock. He's just mentioned as someone who has been brought in to assess/inspect and has served as an expert witness.
Posted by USMEagles
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:38 pm to
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that Zehner dude had nothing to do with the design or construction of the Hard Rock. He's just mentioned as someone who has been brought in to assess/inspect and has served as an expert witness.


I do think the Zehner story is almost certainly sensationalism and a red herring.

My comment was more about the generally lax attitude the people in charge seem to have in LA. Once you're in the professional club, the other members will circle the wagons with a fierceness you seldom see in their legitimate endeavors.

Another example is that Bill McGee shyster up in oh-so-safe St. Tammany who got a slap on the wrist for brazenly stealing houses under color of law. Damn near kept his law license, if memory serves. May have.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:45 pm to
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I do think the Zehner story is almost certainly sensationalism and a red herring.

My comment was more about the generally lax attitude the people in charge seem to have in LA. Once you're in the professional club, the other members will circle the wagons with a fierceness you seldom see in their legitimate endeavors.

Another example is that Bill McGee shyster up in oh-so-safe St. Tammany who got a slap on the wrist for brazenly stealing houses under color of law. Damn near kept his law license, if memory serves. May have


Actually LAPELS( LA engineering and surveying board) is extremely strict and harsh in 99% of cases.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:52 pm to
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This makes my skin crawl.


Fortunately, I'm not a hardware guy, and our data center and network teams don't do things like this.

But I do have to deal with the software equivalent sometimes.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:54 pm to
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Actually LAPELS( LA engineering and surveying board) is extremely strict and harsh in 99% of cases.


Yep, this dude doesn't know what he's talking about,
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Another example is that Bill McGee shyster up in oh-so-safe St. Tammany


Did St tammany steal your girl or something?
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
28941 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:21 pm to
NOFP just said the cranes will absolutely collapse and there is nothing they can do to stop them from falling.

One of the cranes that they’re worried about falling, moved an inch in a direction that was not expected. Engineers are closely monitoring it. Each crane weighs 40 tons and 400 feet they believe it will hit the Saenger Threatre.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:29 pm to
Where did you hear this?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:35 pm to
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NOFP just said the cranes will absolutely collapse and there is nothing they can do to stop them from falling.


This is stupid. Are they telling us there is no way to hook another mobile crane to it and take it down without collapsing? We have to just wait until they fall down? Seems legit.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:35 pm to
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Where did you hear this?


I haven't heard that any crane collapse is imminent.

I have heard that they are concerned about, after the front comes through, the winds turning around and coming from the south. If the southerly wind pushes the disabled crane in a northbound fall pattern, that's right on top of the Saenger.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28941 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:38 pm to
Press Conference just a few minutes ago. The crane shifted and inch and then moved backwards. They don’t have any answers but are still exploring options.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:40 pm to
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This is stupid. Are they telling us there is no way to hook another mobile crane to it and take it down without collapsing? We have to just wait until they fall down? Seems legit.


Answer to this is YES they can’t move the cranes due to damage they suffered which is why they sent the mobile cranes back home yesterday.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:44 pm to
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This is stupid. Are they telling us there is no way to hook another mobile crane to it and take it down without collapsing? We have to just wait until they fall down? Seems legit.


These things are pretty tall and erected one section vertically at a time using a climbing frame.

There may be a crane big enough to make a 400 foot pick but good luck finding the room to set that up.
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