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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:49 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:49 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Don't even think to suggest implosion.
We owned a brick building in the French Quarter built early 1800s. The first floor was three bricks thick, second and third were two bricks thick. The brick walls that formed the court yard were even older on two walls.
First the bricks back then were soft. Their strength was in how well they were laid (and the stucco that protected them). Their weakness was in the cement. Look up on exposed walls in the Quarter and you'll see where they have been tuckpointed. But tuckpointing can only go so deep and only from the exposed side.
Explode there? expect, hell guarantee, many other collapsed buildings.
We owned a brick building in the French Quarter built early 1800s. The first floor was three bricks thick, second and third were two bricks thick. The brick walls that formed the court yard were even older on two walls.
First the bricks back then were soft. Their strength was in how well they were laid (and the stucco that protected them). Their weakness was in the cement. Look up on exposed walls in the Quarter and you'll see where they have been tuckpointed. But tuckpointing can only go so deep and only from the exposed side.
Explode there? expect, hell guarantee, many other collapsed buildings.
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:51 am to MrLSU
I think someone mentioned earlier that there was some heavy weight being out on the edge of the structure recently because of material being staged
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:54 am to real turf fan
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This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:54 am to MrLSU
quote:
My child said multiple times last night the building was bulging and didn't look safe at 11:30 PM last night so I don't think this was a crane issue.
Is he a structural engineer or did he stay at the FQ Holiday Inn express last nighy?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:55 am to Cosmo
Child may be part of the investigation if he really saw the walls bulging.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:58 am to Cosmo
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This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:58 am to TulaneLSU
Rip to the deceased.
Terrible way to go.
Terrible way to go.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:58 am to TulaneLSU
What exactly does bulging mean in this context?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:59 am to TulaneLSU
Thanks deleting these posts now.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:01 pm to MrLSU
Both the matinee and nighttime performances of Wicked are cancelled for tonight.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:01 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:03 pm to arseinclarse
Friend of mine owns a sub on the job and just posted this.
quote:
Update on the Hard Rock collapse: none of our employees were seriously injured (thank you Jesus!) but 4 employees went to the hospital as a precaution. Some of them had to jump off scissor lifts to avoid the collapse. No other information is available. Pray for the others involved in? this accident!
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:03 pm to The Mick
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What exactly does bulging mean in this context?
When Darth starts a thread there is usually substantial bulging.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:04 pm to arseinclarse
Damn.
I guess I don’t have to say what that video reminds me of.
I guess I don’t have to say what that video reminds me of.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:08 pm to Scoop
It’s two blocks from my church. We had a conf starting at 830. One of the people there is heading to my place to see my daughter. She parks at the noac. I’m sure she’ll have some news for me.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:10 pm to Scoop
Project might just get cancelled. Lawsuits and fighting over liability will take forever.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:10 pm to Scoop
IF there are only 4 fatalities on this, it would be a miracle.
Prayers to all involved in this catastrophe.
Prayers to all involved in this catastrophe.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:12 pm to fightin tigers
How tall was this building suppose to be?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:13 pm to Cosmo
damn. we need more hotels too. this is bad all around
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:15 pm to The Mick
Not a structural engineer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
My guess between the bulging and reports that a lot of material was staged on the collapsed side of the building for upcoming work tells me the guys laying out material either overloaded that part of the building and compromised the structure or something was wrong in the design and the structure couldn’t withstand as much weight as it was supposed to support.
In general, it just means that there were signs that the building was having trouble supporting the weight at least as far back as last night and that no one on the construction site appears to have noticed or considered it significant.
My guess between the bulging and reports that a lot of material was staged on the collapsed side of the building for upcoming work tells me the guys laying out material either overloaded that part of the building and compromised the structure or something was wrong in the design and the structure couldn’t withstand as much weight as it was supposed to support.
In general, it just means that there were signs that the building was having trouble supporting the weight at least as far back as last night and that no one on the construction site appears to have noticed or considered it significant.
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