re: Parasites and Cancer

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do you just take the salesman's word for it?

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Are you aware of the schooling, training, and continuing education, not to mention the mental aptitude it takes to become an oncologist? You're trying to convince me by comparing a high school dropout turned car salesman to an oncologist?

Yes, when it comes to things I know little about, I absolutely trust the people who have dedicated their lives to learning those things.

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It's strange how you leave something as important as your own health to the experts

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How do you type these words? Where has your mind gone to literally use the word "experts" and, in the same sentence, say they know nothing? Do I need to link to dictionary.com so you understand how one earns the title of "expert"?

The fricking balls and blatant anti-intellectual bias it takes to TRULY BELIEVE that your half-assed research on an unfiltered, free-for-all internet where anything by anyone can be presented as fact is just, man, it's mind blowing. The arrogance it takes to spend a year surfing the web reading who the hell knows what and watching random youtube videos or comments from anonymous posters on message boards and pretending you actually know more than these professionals!

Like, we're literally talking about you being either brainwashed or severely lacking mental aptitude. You people should be studied to understand how the internet can warp a person's perception of reality. Like, truly...someone should study y'all so we can prevent the spread.

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The fricking balls and blatant anti-intellectual bias it takes to TRULY BELIEVE that you're half-assed research on an unfiltered, free-for-all internet where anything by anyone can be presented as fact is just, man, it's mind blowing. The arrogance it takes to spend a year surfing the web reading who the hell knows what and watching random youtube videos or comments from anonymous posters on message boards and pretending you actually know more than these professionals!

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I'm not sure you could be more make a more ironic post if you tried

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I'm not sure you could be more make a more ironic post if you tried

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Your schtick is stale and tiring.

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Well, you tried.

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I'm not advocating for people to ignore oncologists and doctors. I am encouraging people that are suffering through cancer to ask questions. Ask them if treatment would work for them? Ask them why or why not? With something as serious as cancer, i would think any glimmer of hope should be at least entertained

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I've talked to doctors about people who do this. You want bad care? Go to them with some bullshite rumors you read on the internet and see how that works out for you. When you do that, you're literally insulting and diminishing everything they've devoted their professional lives to. Good luck with that.

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Go to them with some bullshite rumors you read on the internet

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Like 2 weeks to stop the spread and 6ft social distancing saves lives? Those kinds of bullshite rumors? Or masks work? Or the vaccine stops transmission?

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find some guys that spend a lot of time working cows. Ivermectin is usually given as a pour on

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I bet I have had gallons of pour on spilled on my body throughout my life. I've had it in my mouth, my eyes, hair, groin, and spilled all down my back. I'm 51 now and haven't had any issues with it. So, over 45 years of getting dosed with it. I did grow an extra toe though.

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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are being serious I don't think you comprehending Scott Adams' X post properly.

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Full sarcasm.

Though it's funny you even need to consider I was being serious. That's how far this anti-intellectualism has gone.

Lung cancer survivor of 3 years, here. It’s fricking terrifying to get a cancer diagnosis. I had been reading about fenben and ivermectin treatments for Covid and cancer before my diagnosis. My oncologist straight up lied to me and told me that he had never heard of either medicines being used for cancer, and a veterinarian family member told me that they’ve known about the fenben for a while.

The oncology nurse admitted to me a month or so later that yes, they had heard of it but knew nothing about how to do the protocols. I told them if the cancer goes away and comes back I will be doing the other stuff either concurrently with new treatment or by itself.

frick you people who have not been diagnosed with cancer and you want to ridicule those who are adverse to the pharmaceutical merry go round and expensive treatments. I had great insurance but some corporate bullshite says I owe thousands of dollars while the local office says everything was paid. Of course I’m going to try the cheaper route and if it doesn’t work then that is that. I would rather die that be saddled with that fricking medical debt because AON can’t get their financial shite together, at least for me.

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Wonder if there will be any connection to Covid 19 and parasites since ivermectin was successful in assisting against Covid?

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It’s more likely because it is effective in retarding virus replication. The original polio vaccines were corrupted by SV40, a monkey virus that, in humans, creates a broad variety of soft tissue cancers. To avoid a panic, some researchers say although the vaccine was allegedly “fixed”, many people were vaccinated with the corrupt batches while the new “fixed” batches were being manufactured.
[oddly I can’t find the documentaries about this. I’m going to have to look in my TV’s library of YouTube videos and look it up by their titles]
There were concerns that the US would experience an explosion of soft tissue cancers in the decades downstream from the late 50’s, early 60’s.

As it is now, it seems possible CoVid vaccines have either stimulated something dormant like SV40 or possibly reintroduced it or something similar that’s viral. Ivermectin seems to have worked miracles for some patients quite far gone.
Kathleen Ruddy, MD

I looked at the articles mentioned.

I have done this many times over the years. The reason physicians could be perceived as dismissive is because the data presented is not up to scientific standards or misleading- as these are. One could spend many, many hours looking at the hundreds of articles/writings regarding alternative therapies.

I saw a point in the peer reviewed article that was linked that I thought was interesting as they stated a Phase 2 study had shown no significant side effects of mebendazole. I went to that study to look at how long patients were on therapy and what type of responses were seen.

Conclusions copied from the linked study:

All 10 patients who started continuous treatment with Mbz were withdrawn from study treatment between 14 and 91 days after the first dose due to rapidly PD and/or clinical deterioration. In light also of the difficulties to reach the target serum-Mbz concentration despite intensive TDM based dose adjustments allowing high daily Mbz doses, the study was stopped prematurely. Importantly, however, no safety issues were observed to influence this decision. Rather, it is concluded that Mbz is safe and tolerable at doses up to 4 g/day in patients with heavily pre-treated gastrointestinal cancer.

So no mention in the peer reviewed article that 10/10 progressed rapidly- just that in the short time they were on the agent they didnt have side effects that were attributed to the drug. But these authors have no bias?

As a scientist you would want to proceed with a trial that had 10/10 rapid progressions? The only reason would be because it didnt make people sick and was cheap? Indeed 30 patients were planned for the study but since everyone did poorly the trial was stopped ( stopping a trial for ineffectiveness is common practice even for drugs being developed that will be extremely expensive).

And again this is a study cited in an article advocating these medications.

It has been my experience over the years that this will be the case looking at the citations provided. Misleading/missing data is given about the links, the studies linked often do not even say what they were said to have concluded, or they simply are not strong science for treating patients.

For example killing cancer in mice is not enough evidence to begin giving to people. All drugs developed have to show effectiveness in tissue/mice, etc to proceed forward to being dosed in trials for people. The vast majority of drugs tested actually fail in human trials that have passed this hurdle. Only a small fraction of drugs developed are approved.