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re: Over a quarter of the murders in New Orleans this year, occurred on 1/1

Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:41 pm to
What is Troop Nola?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:44 pm to
The NOPD is under an Obama Justice Dept. consent decree, so the Governor sent in state police to do the stuff the city police can't. They also tossed out the homeless prior to the Super Bowl.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
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What is Troop Nola?


Group of Troopers dedicated to New Orleans. They help NOPD with policing some areas.

The idea existed several years back, but LSP fricked it up by using tax dollars to host orgies and rent out publically paid for hotel rooms.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
As much as some would have us believe violent crime of all sorts is down across the nation. It ticked up slightly in 2020 but was still well under historical averages and is back to pre-COVID numbers. The desire to live in a dystopian hell scape is all about irrational fear and is not based on reality.

There are a lot of reasons for this, first is probably the emergence of electronic banking and a near cashless society. Knock someone in the head today and you going to need their PIN to make any money at it. Whatever the reason violent crime and crime in general are down and have been for some time except for a brief spike during COVID when people had a lot of free time, were bored and convinced the end was nigh....but of course the discourse is that its unsafe to leave the house without being armed to the teeth and perception is far more fun than reality....
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
State police troop assigned specifically to New Orleans. They’ve played a heavy hand in police chases and operations in New Orleans east and other high crime areas which has freed NOPD up.


They also provide an additional level of visibility in the French Quarter and other high tourist traffic areas.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:50 pm to
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A study posted here recently showed that the decrease in murder is due to improved medical care, not a decrease in attempted murder.


Both are considered violent crimes, obviously, and both are down to the almost historical lows that existed just before COVID.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:04 pm to
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The city limits of Bham have seen a similar drop. Hard to know all the reasons, but late last year they did arrest a guy that they think is responsible for at least 14 murders. My amateur hypothesis is that if you can luck out and take a few of the worst of the worst off the street it will really drive these good results.


Its almost universal across the nation,,,,violent crime is down. Not to the historical low levels prior to 1990 but down.

One reason is electronic banking and a near cashless economy.

Another is surveillance technology...had to pick a booger in this country without being seen doing it so committing a violent crime is also hard to do.

I think a third reason is the emergence of less restrictive open carry and concealed carry regulations. I do neither because I can't keep up with my wallet, keys and cell phone BUT a lot of people do and if anyone doubts the idea that you don't who is carrying won't give you pause when contemplating a crime you are insane.

We also have a dwindling prison population despite what the pundits would have us believe. From 2019 to 2024 there has been a 10% decrease in the number of people in prison and jail. I suspect, and have read studies, that this may be due to improved birth control methods and readily available abortion. Whatever the case there are 10% fewer people in prison today than just 5 years ago and the trend has been downward since the peak in 2006 or so. The age of prisoners at every stage, first conviction or many, is also older indicating young people are committing fewer crimes. This is no doubt tied in part to quasi legal marijuana and less mandatory sentencing for stupid crimes involving drugs.

The idea that crime is rampant is just no so. Its a damn shame that we are lead to believe it is so those bent on getting elected say it often and loud enough that it becomes reality. We are actually living in a pretty damned awesome era but you wouldn't know it listening to about 2/3s of the population...
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:10 pm to
This has nothing to do with a Covid Spike, when we are talking 1960 level.

That's six decades before Covid, Chep Morrison was the mayor in New Orleans, Eisenhower was President, Ole Miss was the SEC champions.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:10 pm to
And New Orleans has over 100k more people.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Made three trips to NOLA last year and each time I noticed that downtown / FQ looked materially better than in the 2021 time frame. Cops walking about and less roving bands of “youths” looking for reparations.


I may be an outlier but I like New Orleans for about 3 nights. I know that is probably not the sentiment of most of this board who feel like anywhere there are more than 2 black people you are getting into a shithole. I have always enjoyed New Orleans and the quarter. My son and I went to the Sugar Bowl this year and it was by far the best trip I have ever made to New Orleans. Even with the terror attack making us vacate our room on Bourbon Street drunker than Cooter Brown at 3 AM and losing to the fricking Irish it was the best time I ever had in New Orleans. It was noticeably better than it was in 2006 when we went to Jazz Fest and that was a blast also. Have been 3-4 times between and it has always been fun but this last trip was without a hitch even with the terror attack.

One of the main reasons I like New Orleans is I also like Atlanta, New York, Baltimore, Chicago...I just ain't saddled with irrational fear because I can read. Can a person still get knocked in the head in New Orleans? Hell yes...but its less likely than it has been, especially as a tourist in the quarter.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:24 pm to
Some good points here, but a lot of those things were also true in the recent preceding years when New Orleans and Bham were killing fields.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:25 pm to
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This can’t be said or emphasized enough. IDK if this is a Louisiana thing, or something other states experience, too. I’ve never seen residents shite on their own state’s cities, and outright root for them to fail, like I see Louisiana residents do.


And it is a reciprocal hatred. Plenty of New Orleanians don't want to see JP or the Northshore be successful either.

It's why there is seemingly a wall on the parish line. For example, you wouldn't catch someone from Uptown dead at Family Gras or Gretna Fest.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:28 pm to
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I also think Troop NOLA is a big part of this. The governor and the state police certainly have a role to play in this success story


I shite on Landry regularly, but credit where credit is due
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:37 am to
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Some good points here, but a lot of those things were also true in the recent preceding years when New Orleans and Bham were killing fields.



They were indeed. It is a slow moving trend for certain....I would bet that in some neighborhoods violent crime is actually higher than historical data...but overall the trend is down and has been for a while. The "good" thing about it being isolated to smaller areas, say a couple of 20 or so square blocks in a city, is resources can be focused easier on a smaller area.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5588 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:47 am to
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Made three trips to NOLA last year and each time I noticed that downtown / FQ looked materially better than in the 2021 time frame.


2021 was likely the low point for the French quarter in recent history. Peak covid effects from shutting down domestic and global travel and all the bums from lake Charles were still being housed by fema in hotels along canal street.

Taylor Swift weekend in 2024 was likely the high point in recent French quarter history.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42338 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:21 am to
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the new Police Chief


Is irrelevant.

quote:

Troop Nola

+
The State AG
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Game changers
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:39 am to
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Ole Miss was the SEC champions.


This really puts it in perspective.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:21 am to
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Plenty of New Orleanians don't want to see JP or the Northshore be successful either.
no, not really
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