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re: OT Workout crew: What am I doing wrong?

Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah but I think I wrote that for beginners. They should probably stick to something around that to start off with. Beginners usually try to do too much.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Indeed, certain microbial communities are more efficient at extracting nutrients than others. Microbes have also been shown to influence your cravings.


The arrow of causality...

you get it sir

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22202 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
We don't want that science shite in here, brofessor

j/k I'll look at it later after I finish my pizza er em green beans
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Dude, from your post:

But that's not a "bro-science" mistake. It's a fact. I don't know how to help you understand. I'm done trying lol. It's amazing someone this dumb can function well enough to stay alive.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:04 pm to


My little PSA for the OT

The more you bro....

This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:05 pm to
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4- Universal workout of
---M (Back)
---T (Chest)
---W (Legs)
---TR (Shoulders)
---F (Arms)


Do you consider deadlifts a back or leg exercise?

It really is kind of both, but I found it to be one of the best upper back developers for me.

After my son was born a year ago, I didn't have time to hit the gym after work. So my buddy and I started going on our lunch break two days a week.

On day 1, I did bench and dumbbell rows.
On day 2, I did deadlifts and shoulder press.

With the exception of bench, I followed a 3X5 routine on all workouts. On bench I did a 7-5-3-1 with 20 pound splits. I actually had some of the best gains in my life. Unfortunately, I moved in June and lost my workout partner. I tried Wendler 5-3-1 because it has you lifting at a lower percentage of your max. My thought is that it would be safer on bench if I couldn't find a spotter.

While I maintained a good level of strength, my overall max lift slowly decreased over time. I was actually doing a more complicated workout, and seeing what I felt to be worse results.

This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22202 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:10 pm to
Deadlift is a back exercise primarily. You can make it a leg exercise by putting your hips lower but it's primarily back.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Do you consider deadlifts a back or leg exercise?

It really is kind of both, but I found it to be one of the best upper back developers for me.


You might not like me agreeing with you but I 100% do right here.
I made great progress by moving deadlift from leg day to back day.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:11 pm to
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lsu777


Really appreciate the info
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
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But that's not a "bro-science" mistake.


Yes, yes it is. While you clarified it in a response post by adding weight per unit volume, your original statement is false as written. That's why I simply stated that people need to quit saying that. Perhaps I'm trying to debate semantics. However, words have meanings.

As someone who keeps deeming himself as more intelligent than I hopefully you would understand this concept.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22202 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
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I actually had some of the best gains in my life. Unfortunately, I moved in June and lost my workout partner. I tried Wender 5-3-1 because it has you lifting at a lower percentage of your max. My thought is that it would be safer on bench if I couldn't find a spotter.



If you can't do bench or are afraid of doing too heavy from no spotter, try doing heavy dips and do bench press with a chain (if you have those) or resistance bands. Proper technique and negatives are big helpers with bench press.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:18 pm to
I really don't like going over 250 without a spotter, but pushed it one day at 280. It made the last rep a little scary. While I can do dumbbells as well, they only go up to 110 at the gym I'm at.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:19 pm to
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While you clarified it in a response post by adding weight per unit volume, your original statement is false as written.

Fair enough but I didn't think it was something that needed to be further clarified.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:21 pm to
Like I said, I thought it was funny because you were all correcting another guy for doing something similar. It's cool.

FWIW, you had good info your overall post.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22202 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:38 pm to
Get in a power rack and put those bars across so the bar will just fall on them.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:00 pm to
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I just started MFP


Mike from Plaquemine?

I thought he was dead.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:05 pm to
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Source? Other than some science-bro?



LINK

"A 1000 calorie deficit (or excess) per day will add up to 2 pounds lost (or gained) in a week. However, creating such a large deficit every day may be difficult and counterproductive. Remember that cutting calories too quickly and/or too much will slow your metabolic rate. The American College of Sports Medicine warns that calorie levels should never drop below 1200 calories/day for women or 1800/day for men; even these levels are very low."



But I know...."broscience"
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:09 pm to
Eating clean at 2,000 calories and running at 3,000 calories per day burned would be somewhat counter-productive.

Sure, you would shed 2lbs per week, but your body would be burning more than just carbs/fat as energy.

Eat a clean 2,500-3,000 cals, burn 3,000-3,500 per day, and you would get better results in the end.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:16 pm to
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But that's not a "bro-science" mistake. It's a fact. I don't know how to help you understand. I'm done trying lol. It's amazing someone this dumb can function well enough to stay alive.



Seriously? Some of know that density is not weight or mass. And you actually argued about it?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:17 pm to
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ating clean at 2,000 calories and running at 3,000 calories per day burned would be somewhat counter-productive. 

Sure, you would shed 2lbs per week, but your body would be burning more than just carbs/fat as energy. 



They've had studies, including one that was released this week, that showed your statement isn't necessarily true.

The high protein, 40% calorie deficit group actually gained muscle mass during the 6 week study too.

If he's new to lifting, a high calorie deficit for the first few weeks may not be a bad way to go
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