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OT Vintage Speaker Experts - Acoustic Research AR-3’s
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:14 pm
This maybe one of my greatest estate sale finds. It’s vintage speakers. These things weigh about 80 lbs each. I paid $280 for the pair.
I slap them on eBay and get an offer of $1500 within two hours.
Refurbished ones sell for $3000 a pair
I slap them on eBay and get an offer of $1500 within two hours.
Refurbished ones sell for $3000 a pair
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:16 pm to theantiquetiger
I'll give ya...tree fiddy.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:17 pm to theantiquetiger
What makes the old ones better?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:17 pm to RougeDawg
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What makes the old ones better?
I have no idea
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:19 pm to RougeDawg
New speakers don’t have the same bass capabilities for the most part. My dad had a vintage pair of speakers redone and paired them with a vintage pioneer amp and record player and they will blow your eyebrows off if you’re into that shite.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:20 pm to RougeDawg
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What makes the old ones better?
They arent. Modern high end speakers are better.
But there are people that think music sounds better on vinyl so there you go
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:20 pm to RougeDawg
quote:I'm no expert but I'd imagine the heavy, real wood cabinets and just overall weight and quality of the drivers.
What makes the old ones better?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:22 pm to Cosmo
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But there are people that think music sounds better on vinyl
I bet you still have your Pearl Jam cds
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:22 pm to RougeDawg
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What makes the old ones better?
All I got.
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Villchur started Acoustic Research in 1952, and his very first speaker, the AR-1, was an immediate hit. Villchur’s design strategy used the elasticity of air within a sealed cabinet to provide the restoring force for the driver, which allowed his relatively small speakers to produce deep, low-distortion bass.
Villchur’s AR-3 was an even greater departure. The look was pure and clean, just a plain, wood-veneered box, but lurking behind the knit-cloth grille was the world’s first production dome tweeter and dome midrange drivers, and a 12-inch cone woofer. By today’s standards, the AR-3 wasn’t all that small—it came in at 25 inches tall, 14 inches wide, and 11.5 inches deep, and weighed 47 pounds. In 1958, it sold for $216 a pair, making it a very expensive speaker for its time.
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:22 pm to patnuh
I do but they are covered in dust in closet. Havent played a CD since 2010 prob
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:26 pm to Cosmo
My point is a good record player with a quality record sounds better than digital music.
But you also have to have a good amp and pair of speakers....it’s an investment most people are not interested in. I not in the same stratosphere as the Bama fan on here with the $20k shite, but it does make a difference.
But you also have to have a good amp and pair of speakers....it’s an investment most people are not interested in. I not in the same stratosphere as the Bama fan on here with the $20k shite, but it does make a difference.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:55 pm to patnuh
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New speakers don’t have the same bass capabilities for the most part.
The AR3 is an acoustic suspension speaker and doesn't have the extension or volume capability as most ported alignment speakers either new or vintage. Some people like the mid-bass hump they have which gives them a warmer sound and tricks one into thinking they have more bass than they do.
Many modern speakers are limited in bass reproduction since they are designed to pair with a subwoofer, modern bass management makes this much more seamless than in the past and take advantage of the lack of localization below say 80hz.
The AR3 is still a very well regarded speaker when brought back to new condition. The dome tweeter is still good in today's world. The crossovers should be rebuilt on one that has not been refreshed before. They do present a pretty stout load to an amp so you need something that is very stable at the load they present.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:40 pm to Obtuse1
I wonder what it would cost me to get them refurbished
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:47 pm to theantiquetiger
You find some old heresys let me know
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:53 pm to TutHillTiger
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You find some old heresys let me know
There is also some old speakers with LSU in the name, they are quit expensive. When I use to collect vintage LSU (hence my screen name), it would pop up every time I searched LSU on eBay
Edit: Tannoy LSU
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:09 pm to theantiquetiger
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I wonder what it would cost me to get them refurbished
No way to know until you get into them. If I could clear $1000 after fees and shipping(don't ship until after the holidays) I would send them on their way.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:16 pm to Obtuse1
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No way to know until you get into them. If I could clear $1000 after fees and shipping(don't ship until after the holidays) I would send them on their way.
I got an offer within 2 hours of listing them, for $1500 shipped. It will cost $200+ to ship them. I have $288 in them. That’s $1000 profit. I would need to spend less than $500 to refurbish them to make it worth my time. Bird in the Hand...
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:17 pm to theantiquetiger
The value of those Tannoy concentric drivers value really depends on when they were manufactured.
The factory moved to Scotland and had a bunch of QC issues and were hit by the bean counters. The high-frequency compression drivers had thinner membranes in order to use cheaper magnets. Poor machining on the phase plugs ect plagued them. Most had a horrible suck out at 2khz and then had a seriously rising response to about 17khz then dropped like a rock.
The factory moved to Scotland and had a bunch of QC issues and were hit by the bean counters. The high-frequency compression drivers had thinner membranes in order to use cheaper magnets. Poor machining on the phase plugs ect plagued them. Most had a horrible suck out at 2khz and then had a seriously rising response to about 17khz then dropped like a rock.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 11:26 pm
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