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re: OT Veterinarian Help - Emergency or Can it Wait Until the Morning - Update pg. 3
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:08 pm to Saintsisit
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:08 pm to Saintsisit
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A little late for now, but in the future pet insurance for just emergencies comes in handy. We pay $27 a month and were reimbursed a few thousand dollars on 2 separate occasions.
Same same.. i lost my good boy a while back, but i had pet insurance on him for most of his life and it saved me thousands.. he had 7 or 8 different surgeries over his lifetime, each costing over $1k and the insurance generally covered 90% of it.. the pet insurance paid for itself many times over.. Highly recommend .
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:31 pm to MonroeTigerstripes
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It took almost a year to figure out what was wrong with her, but she’s 8 now and happy & healthy
Glad to hear yours is doing good now. I feel like that’s what’s going on with mine and this new food has just really aggravated it.
He’s laying on my side sound asleep snoring right now so we’re ok for now, going to ride it out tonight.
Need to go ahead and get insurance for him. We had it for my oldest dog and cancelled it bc we never used it other than it giving a discount on regular visits. This knucklehead needs it though.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:35 pm to iwyLSUiwy
hey brother
am a vet
i preface forthcoming comment with i am just taking in what information you have provided and it cant be construed as a full diagnosis or medical advice, just my opinion with limited data.
i would not worry about an emergency visit tonight if you will be bringing him in tomorrow. Blood in stool and in vomit can be a huge list of things, most of which isnt on my immediate emergency list (at least not the amount you are describing). There would be a few things but if mentation and behaviors, including appetite is normal it worries me less.
i would want to asses a lot of other things. How much blood (a little often looks like a lot). what condition is the blood? (im guessing vomit was frank, ie very red and stool is more rusty or brown?). Any changes in home care lately? etc etc yada yada
things to look out for overnight
-sudden change in behavior or mentation (dont get into your head though and start making things up)
-check his crt (this was described by previous poster), you can check this by pushing hard on the gums above his upper canine teeth. when you let go it will be white because you pushed all the blood out the tissue. it should return to pinkness in a second or less. if it become prolonged, means he could have significant blood loss.
-sudden onset of pain
-intractable vomiting. if he starts vomiting non-stop without periods of rest that would be an immediate get your arse to emergency.
id say try to put your mind to ease and get some rest. bring him in tomorrow.
am a vet
i preface forthcoming comment with i am just taking in what information you have provided and it cant be construed as a full diagnosis or medical advice, just my opinion with limited data.
i would not worry about an emergency visit tonight if you will be bringing him in tomorrow. Blood in stool and in vomit can be a huge list of things, most of which isnt on my immediate emergency list (at least not the amount you are describing). There would be a few things but if mentation and behaviors, including appetite is normal it worries me less.
i would want to asses a lot of other things. How much blood (a little often looks like a lot). what condition is the blood? (im guessing vomit was frank, ie very red and stool is more rusty or brown?). Any changes in home care lately? etc etc yada yada
things to look out for overnight
-sudden change in behavior or mentation (dont get into your head though and start making things up)
-check his crt (this was described by previous poster), you can check this by pushing hard on the gums above his upper canine teeth. when you let go it will be white because you pushed all the blood out the tissue. it should return to pinkness in a second or less. if it become prolonged, means he could have significant blood loss.
-sudden onset of pain
-intractable vomiting. if he starts vomiting non-stop without periods of rest that would be an immediate get your arse to emergency.
id say try to put your mind to ease and get some rest. bring him in tomorrow.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:03 am to caro81
Thanks, wish I would have seen this last night, would have slept better 
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(im guessing vomit was frank, ie very red and stool is more rusty or brown?)
I'd say yes to both of those.
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Any changes in home care lately?
Just the food change. It's been 3 weeks now. We are going to switch him back to his old stuff though because it was good on his stomach I think. Diarrhea went away almost immediately after putting him on it.
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-sudden change in behavior or mentation (dont get into your head though and start making things up)
He was a little restless last night but otherwise slept pretty good. He was pretty tired/didn't play as much as normal.
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-check his crt (this was described by previous poster), you can check this by pushing hard on the gums above his upper canine teeth. when you let go it will be white because you pushed all the blood out the tissue. it should return to pinkness in a second or less. if it become prolonged, means he could have significant blood loss.
I didn't do this. I just looked at his gums and the y seemed pretty pink. Although his gums are blacker than I ever noticed before. But I doubt that's something new.
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-sudden onset of pain
Good there.
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-intractable vomiting. if he starts vomiting non-stop without periods of rest that would be an immediate get your arse to emergency.
Gave him some rice this morning with a little chicken broth before I took him to the vet and he threw it up immediately. Our dogs aren't people food dogs so he's not used to that, but he threw it up before he was even done eating. But there was no blood in it.
I waited for the vet but ended up having to drop him off because the vet was in a procedure. So I didn't even get to talk to him. Just told them what was going on. Still waiting on a call from them.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:32 am to iwyLSUiwy
cool. to satisfy my curiosity let me know what they say.
if its frank blood on vomit and darker in stool then it means its likely an upper GI bleed. somewhere in the esophagus, stomach or even duodenum.
could be lot of things. Ulcers high on the list.
if its frank blood on vomit and darker in stool then it means its likely an upper GI bleed. somewhere in the esophagus, stomach or even duodenum.
could be lot of things. Ulcers high on the list.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:50 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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his gums are blacker than I ever noticed before. But I doubt that's something new.
That reminds me of a few years ago when i was at a vet appt with my dog, and i happened to mention and point out a couple of spots/growths id never noticed before.. im like ‘Doctor do you think this is something to be concerned about ?’.. and she was all ‘Yeah, ummmm so those are his NIPPLES ‘…. . I honestly had never noticed them before .. It was not my finest moment .
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:59 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I hope your dog is ok. There’s a lot going on with accusations of pet food making our pets sick and also killing them. Some had these symptoms. Sourcing? Who knows. Many companies obtain their meat, etc. from same distributor. Some vets and feed stores are acknowledging this, some aren’t. Some food has disappeared from shelves. Please research. Or it could be an illness. Vomiting and passing blood would be an er visit if my vet is closed. And if it’s hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, it’s nothing to play with.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:47 pm to caro81
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cool. to satisfy my curiosity let me know what they say.
Alright I finally talked to the vet.
He thinks it's acute gastroenteritis. That it took a while to show up (3 weeks after the new food) but is fairly common.
Blood tests were abnormal/low but he was having a hard time getting a good stick so it's common to have low platelets when you don't get a good stick.
Gave him a shot for vomiting and two prescription meds (not 100% on the meds, haven't picked them up yet). Told me not to let him eat for 24 hours but start him back on the hydrolyzed protein food tomorrow. If he throws up after eating that then we should bring him back in and put him on some IV fluids and do more tests because it might be more serious.
For now he thinks he'll be ok with the shot/meds/back to the old food. Said he's in a good mood and doesn't think he'll have to come back for it. Said he'd hold off on doing further tests unless he throws up more to help from running the bill up high.
So good news. Sound right to you?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:52 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I'm very relieved that your pup seems to be doing better than feared. Sending good energy your way.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:07 pm to iwyLSUiwy
enteritis is also quite probable. What were the 2 meds he sent you home with?
was the shot cerenia?
was the shot cerenia?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:44 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Your dog isn't out of the woods yet but I'm glad the OT could save you a few grand last night.
I'm not sold on enteritis. I'd like to know what diagnostics they did.
I'm not sold on enteritis. I'd like to know what diagnostics they did.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Glad your pooch is okay. He needs several more Pels victories to put this behind him.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:35 am to iwyLSUiwy
Prolly HGE.
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