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re: OT Runners: How did you get faster?

Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:00 am to
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:00 am to
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through the summer and into the fall. With the rigors of an SEC schedule, workouts couldn’t last longer than six miles. That is until the season concluded and opened up the requisite free time needed to continue his training. “I got up New Year’s morning and got 13 miles in,” Mullen told the Clarion-Ledger. “That was kind of my first start.” Then offseason workouts saw Mullen getting up at 7 a.m. and running up to 10 miles. Mullen’s training has since peaked at just more than 20 miles, which he reached on Easter. That leaves just six miles to go.




Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:00 am to
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I was told the best way to get faster is run really fast 1/4 miles and stop for 1-2 minutes and do again for 6-7 times. Most 1/4 miles should be 1:20-1:34


yeh thats not really fast
Posted by MaleB
NC
Member since Jul 2016
253 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:25 am to
I am 42 years old and have run two 1:38 half marathons this year. 7:30 pace. Phil Maffetone is your best friend. Look him up
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13221 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:30 am to
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I want to run my first competitive race in Dec. (Rocket City Marathon). Bad idea by not starting with a 5 or 10k first?


If you have three months under your belt then a December marathon is doable. Your current pacing is very good for only 3 months. There are training schedules for this on the web but you want to be emphasizing distance running over speed training. One very long run per week is the basic idea. And plenty of miles the other days with a rest day thrown in.

For speed in shorter races what worked best for me was shorter intervals of 100% effort, maybe 1.0 - 1.5 minutes followed by a 2 - 3 minute recovery segment. And I found a hill and ran up it repeatedly. That training made a huge difference in my 5k/10k time. I guess it wouldn't hurt your marathon training as long as you do the distance you need too.
Posted by snags
Crowley, la
Member since Mar 2008
207 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:00 am to
Get the book Advanced Marathoning by Pete Pfitzinger and Scott Douglas. Do the 18/70 plan. Solid training program.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:21 am to
Shave your body.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78655 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:47 am to
Higdon is better
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:13 am to
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yeh thats not really fast


5-6 minute pace isn't exactly slow. "Sprint" is definitely a misnomer. But after a mile or two warmup, then 8-10 "quarter sprints" at a 6 minute or less pace, a person who usually runs at 7:45-8 min pace is going to be feeling it. Especially in this heat.

To those saying long and slow gives you a slow runner, you have to build your aerobic base. There's a big benefit to teaching your body to operate in an aerobic zone when doing anything endurance.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78655 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:15 am to
I'm 36 years old and have a large athletic frame. If I can finish a 5k in less than 23 minutes I consider that to be really solid.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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Paul Allen
I'm 36 years old and have a large athletic frame


Lolz
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:27 am to
Zappa knows what he's talking about. There all sorts of programs out there and they are all different.

Remember one thing once u get into ur marathon training cycle - every run has a purpose. Your long runs need to be slow and easy. Your recovery runs even more so. Your speed work is where you push hard. I usually have 2 speed workouts per week (one tempo run and one track session). A couple easy/recovery runs. And a good long steady run.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
2068 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:02 am to
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Higdon is better


Absolutely
Posted by snags
Crowley, la
Member since Mar 2008
207 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:18 am to
Maybe so but I know people who used this program last race season and all hit their goals. One guy even got 2:59 marathon which isn't fricking easy.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78655 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:30 am to
5'11" 207. Maybe that isn't large frame
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