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re: OT Pool Owners- Questions

Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:29 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:29 am to
Also this is what riverbend is wanting. let me know what you think of this


18 inch Oklahoma Coping, 2' linear
80% Quartz Plus finish
Single color textured concrete no seal


If anyone has used Riverbend, can you haggle at all?
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:32 am to
75% is being generous. I'd say about 90% bc they're told less maintenance less this less that yada yada yada and that's why a lot pool builders don't recommend it.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:38 am to
There's different levels of finishes and tiles and extras/options. So when you say haggle, a pool builder will drop the level of something to get within your price range or nix an option. Like previous poster mentioned, reputable pool builders are busy and their price is the price.


They're typical pool finishes.
I'm involved with a redo now and using an Oklahoma brown coping and colored concrete deck.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 6:47 am
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:43 am to
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Salt

So wrong if the OP is going Lagoon style and is using natural rock/stone or has a spa

Natural rock/stone you will forever have "sand", shite in your pool.
This fact , I had to replace all my natural stone coping after 5 years of salt . Clorine really isn that hard to do either, I actually found it easier once I turned off the salt generator.

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
28004 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:51 am to
not to mention i have a really pretty 6 foot natural stone retaining wall behind our house with landscaping above it. the pool will back up to this, so salt is not an option.

so the Oklahoma coping is ok? what about the single color textured concrete deck? i just dont want entry level.

i want the honda accord of pools. not the cheapest but nothing too luxury
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:04 am to
That's what you're getting. Middle of the road and you will be happy with it. I love the Oklahoma brown coping and matching colored concrete deck. Most of the residential pools I've been involved with have gone this route. I'm currently redoing a 70's pool and going with That combo. We're going with pebblesheen instead of the quartz but I've used that Quartz on my parents about 11 years ago and no major problem so far.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
28004 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:07 am to
ok great. so the quartz IS an upgrade over standard plaster?

will it need to be refinished in 10 years?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16353 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:07 am to
I'm bookmarking this thread, i live with of Arlington and would be interested in the quotes you are getting and from where.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8406 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:12 am to
quote:

dsllastiger


go to the web site I recommended go to forum under pool construction there are literally scores of threads of pool builds in the DFw area with recommended not recommended Bldrs
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:15 am to
It's rare that anyone uses just plain white poolplaster anymore. They're probably using Diamond Brite quartz that's a quartz and Portland cement finish. Let your builder answer the question about being refinished. It has a 10 year warranty leading me to believe you will be fine.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:15 am to
Here is my Riverbend pool with Oaklahoma coping and Tahoe Blue PebbleTec. We dealt with Don over there. They are a bit old school and very busy that's why you don't get good response them.



When you get the pool built and if you are like me, it's going to drive you crazy. Its a big arse mess and there will be days that go by with little to no activity because they sub most of the work out.

They are also going to dig the shite out of your yard between the pool, pool piping, and tie in to the sewer it will be a mess.

If they tell you 11 week build time they will take every day of that 11 weeks.


You are not going to get a deal from a good pool guy in DFW they have more work than they have tons of work.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7596 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Ozonater is what I have on my pull puts all water through an electronic pulse to help purify it to keep it clean. Combine that with chlorine and I barely ever have to do maintenance on the pool.


Do you have UV or corona discharge ozone?
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7596 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:34 am to
quote:

It has a 10 year warranty leading me to believe you will be fine.


I have no specifics in regards to this particular product. Never take a "x" year warranty as a sign of quality or as an insurance policy. Read the warranty. There will likely be many ways for them to work out of it which could be very valid ways such as providing detailed calcium hardness, pH and total alkalinity reasons over the life of the pool.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21627 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:39 am to
Is it common to make a pool 5 foot deep? Seems as tho 4 feet would be a better depth if you have kids. Obviously, if its only adults and/or there will be a lot of diving off edge, 5 foot may be better. Ours is used almost exclusively by the kids, and they generally play in the 3 foot section. Like the size- 14-15k. Not too big like mine, wish I would have gotten a smaller one.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
28004 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 7:45 am to
Has a tanning ledge, then 3 feet

5 at the deepest and 4 on the other end.

Where is the link to the builders in dfw? Riverbend said they will do 450 pools a year

Dfw and more specifically Collin county are the fastest growing area in the US so it makes sense. My sales guy said he's working 12 hour days 6 days a week to keep up
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 7:58 am
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2918 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

You will be surprised at how little the pool builder is actual responsible for.



Don't you mean to say, "how much the builder actually 'builds' or does, as opposed to 'responsible for'? Seems to me the pool contractor, as the party the homeowner contracts with, is "responsible for" everything, regardless as to whether he or his sub screws up.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
28004 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:09 am to
just went to a neighbors house and saw their pool. they had a blue pebble finish and it looked awesome.

anyone have experience with pebble?


also, his pool was only 10k gallons and looked great. made me think 15k was too big. what do yall think?

its just going to be a fun play/lounge pool
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3473 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
Make the tanning ledge as large as possible, we knocked out a wall and added a big ledge in our remodel and everyone loves it.

One other upgrade that was well worth the money was adding the color changing LED lights to the pool, I had a smaller spa light added in the wall in the deep end to light it up better, and the controller changes the color of both lights simultaneously. Future plans are to add landscaping and color changing LED landscape lighting that will hook up to the controller and synch with the pool.

Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21627 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:30 pm to
The best pool builder in the Dallas area is a LSU grad - 972-416-1041.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:51 pm to
Being a pool owner myself, I would NEVER go with chlorine pool, the thought of constantly having to add chlorine is just a nightmare. We have a 15k in-ground gunite saltwater pool (with the Oklahoma rock) and it has been very little maintenance. Get a good quality reagent kit (we have the Taylor k2006) and be vigilant about checking your water chemistries...this will make your pool maintenance life MUCH easier! I'll throw my Dolphin Nautilus Plus in the pool 2-3 times a week and skim it every so often and it stays looking great.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 1:53 pm
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