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OT Plumbers - WTF?

Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:12 pm
Last week I posted a simple question about a likely clogged main sewer drain and got some good solutions and price quotes (thank you). But now I've unearthed some shite that makes no sense to me.

When we bought the house in 2015, the city assured us we were on city sewer, but the plumber that came out found...a full septic tank! So after getting some attitude from a paper pusher at the Water Dept, I got in touch with Environmental Services, and apparently my working septic tank is hooked up to city sewer via a single, small diameter pipe with no clearouts. The city assured me that they would pump it free of charge (after I paid $240).

Has anyone heard of something like this? My plumber about shite a brick when I told him, said he had never seen it in 30 years and couldn't believe it would ever pass city inspection.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5179 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:13 pm to
Probably going to need to get copies of all your sewer bills and talk to an attorney.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18563 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:13 pm to
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The city assured me that they would pump it free of charge (after I paid $240).



doesnt sound free of charge
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63520 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:15 pm to
So it’s the city’s fault that the homeowners plumbers connected the city line to an old septic tank instead of bypassing it

I don’t see the city’s wrong here
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:16 pm to
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So it’s the city’s fault that the homeowners plumbers connected the city line to an old septic tank instead of bypassing it

I don’t see the city’s wrong here


The city inspector should be fired for sure.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29037 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:17 pm to
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My plumber about shite a brick when I told him, said he had never seen it in 30 years and couldn't believe it would ever pass city inspection.



That means get ready to bend over when the city comes out to "pump" it out and then tells you that it isn't to code and you need to fix it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43084 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:17 pm to
Where do you live?
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:18 pm to
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My plumber about shite a brick when I told him,


Yeah, because that's not code and now he's going to have to dig up and remove a septic tank and then replumb all that shite.

Pucker up your a-hole, bub.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5179 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

So it’s the city’s fault that the homeowners plumbers connected the city line to an old septic tank instead of bypassing it I don’t see the city’s wrong here


It's the city's fault if the inspector approved it and the city has been charging him for sewer usage even though he's still using a septic tank.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:18 pm to
They said I could request reimbursement for the $240 (You bet your arse I am) I paid a private company this week, but that in the future we could call the city and they would come pump it for free.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:22 pm to
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I've unearthed some shite

ISWYDT
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12693 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
The sellers should have disclosed this. Your closing atty should be able to advise you on your rights.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21964 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
I’m not a plumber, but I have heard of this being done. My former boss had the same situation discovered, and he just left it.

You can see the appeal. Why dig out the old tank when you can just hook up the outlet drain into the city sewer line.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29708 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Last week I posted a simple question about a likely clogged main sewer

quote:

now I've unearthed some shite

Yup
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6980 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

They said I could request reimbursement for the $240 (You bet your arse I am) I paid a private company this week, but that in the future we could call the city and they would come pump it for free.


Have fun re-explaining this whole situation every time it needs to be pumped to Linda in the office who wasn't around the last time it was pumped.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11935 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:33 pm to
That is insane. I still have a septic tank underground, but we simply bypassed it and hooked it into city sewer directly from the drain line.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:10 pm to
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My former boss had the same situation discovered, and he just left it.


I guess it all hinges on whether it actually meets code or not. If it does and poses no problems down the line when if we decide to sell or anything, then it's a minor inconvenience that I can live with. If it's not up to code, then I need to find out when it was done, who signed off on it, and get the city to come out to empty and crush the thing.

They said we shouldn't have clean-outs but that it was accessible by a manhole on our neighbor's property, 50 ft off my corner. Just bizarre.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

It's the city's fault if the inspector approved it and the city has been charging him for sewer usage even though he's still using a septic tank


Nah, they've thought this through too well. By municipal ordinance, if you live within so many feet of a sewer tap, you get charged $30/mo whether you're tied in or not.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63520 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:50 pm to
City’s responsibility stops at the property line, they don’t know if the crazy plumber left a septic tank in the line somewhere underground
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63520 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:52 pm to
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charging him for sewer usage even though he's still using a septic tank.



It’s still flowing into the city sewer, a septic tank doesn’t absorb sewage, it is dumping out into the sewage line of the city
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