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re: OT on Mental Health
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:21 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:21 pm to LSU Coyote
Over diagnosed? Yep. Especially for those with the means to be treated and medicated.
A real problem? Yep. For those WITHOUT means who are UNDERdiagnosed and under treated. The guy in Katy who rides a bicycle and is wrapped in Christmas lights? That guy. The guy who used to wear a white tarp tied at the waist with rope or twine and CONTINUOUSLY turn his head from side to side. Those guys and women are everywhere. What's the answer? There isn't one. So we bury our head.
A real problem? Yep. For those WITHOUT means who are UNDERdiagnosed and under treated. The guy in Katy who rides a bicycle and is wrapped in Christmas lights? That guy. The guy who used to wear a white tarp tied at the waist with rope or twine and CONTINUOUSLY turn his head from side to side. Those guys and women are everywhere. What's the answer? There isn't one. So we bury our head.
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:24 pm to Forkbeard3777
It will soon not be seen as "mental health" but as a "health/wellness" I think it is becoming more and more recognized and addressed. Probably not over diagnosed 50% of us adults will have it at one point in life- whether it is properly treated or not is a great question!
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:41 pm to LSU Coyote
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I don't want to jump in this again but..
Doing drugs is not always for a high and feeling good. A lot of times it was to fix what seemed off or suppress something which seemed too intense. While this worked, it did have negative affects by amplifying other issues which then created an unwanted problem.
Yes in my experience with addicts and issues of my own, they do have some correalation but not always.
And you probably didn't follow every post we had back and forth...but I was never really using the data for a basis of argument, but he kept on telling me I was wrong for it anyway so I shot that data back to attempt to squash it.
Plain and simple, I know people that suffer from both (most adults probably do), and therefore know for a fact that that they can be associated with each other, and that is all I need to know. I know ppl that I would venture to guess have a mental disorder that have been crazy since I met them and the only substances they had taken to that point were Flintstones vitamins, and I know ppl that were seemingly straight-laced and level-headed until they got to be young adults and started taking substances.
I was never trying to make a claim based on any of the above, except for maybe that my personal experience with mental health has a correlation with my experience with substance abuse.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:37 pm to LSU Coyote
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but most issues which are usually personality disorders get misdiagnosed as mental illness
Personality disorders are a form of mental illness.
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3. No one likes to admit that their problem is under their own control and that they can do something about it. Why? Because if it is not my fault, it is not my responsibility to get better. It is the treatment team and society's responsibility.
While that type of attitude certainly exists in some people, I'm sure, to imply that it's a major factor when it comes to the majority of people suffering from mental illness is a completely unfounded assertion.
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The DSM recognizes 9 disorders as they relate to substance abuse but the initial abuse is what causes the disorders not the other way around.
I realize you stated that you diagnose and treat mentally ill patients. What is your profession?
As for your statement, that would be true if you're talking about someone with no prior history of mental illness, nor drug abuse. But how do you account for something like Borderline Personality Disorder, in which substance abuse, among other reckless or impulsive behaviors, is listed as a symptom and thus a byproduct of the disorder rather than its source?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:42 pm to jeffsdad
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Like the guy said, "It is hard to believe 30% of American women are taking some type of pill for mental instability
Come now. Is that really so hard to believe?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:47 pm to yoga girl
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I am as sane as anyone you meet (unless you are a nurse in a mental institution).
I am not remotely crazy. Chemtrails are a fact. Weather geoengineering is a fact. Alien assistance with pyramid construction is 90% a fact (10% the theory is wrong).
The gullible are those who don't acknowledge this.
The one thing that I have learned as I have gotten older that continues to prove itself is to always think for yourself. If your beliefs and reality go against the grain of the majority of people, you should know that you are on the right path. The crowd of group thinkers are the crazy ones. Not you. Insanity sees Sanity and calls it Insanity. The mass of people on this planet are Insane. So there you go.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:48 pm to Tom288
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I realize you stated that you diagnose and treat mentally ill patients. What is your profession?
Let's just say in the biz and leave it at that.
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As for your statement, that would be true if you're talking about someone with no prior history of mental illness, nor drug abuse. But how do you account for something like Borderline Personality Disorder, in which substance abuse, among other reckless or impulsive behaviors, is listed as a symptom and thus a byproduct of the disorder rather than its source?
That's one symptom out of a long list that you would go down when it comes to diagnosing a borderline. My only point in all of this is that most diagnosed mental illness doesn't come along with substance abuse.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:03 pm to MightyYat
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Let's just say in the biz and leave it at that.
Why? There are no ethical or legal concerns in simply stating what you do.
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That's one symptom out of a long list that you would go down when it comes to diagnosing a borderline. My only point in all of this is that most diagnosed mental illness doesn't come along with substance abuse.
I'm aware that it's one symptom among many symptoms, it was just to prove a point.
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My only point in all of this is that most diagnosed mental illness doesn't come along with substance abuse.
That's correct. Guess everyone can hop off of this train now.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:45 pm to Tom288
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Why? There are no ethical or legal concerns in simply stating what you do.
Do you even OT?
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I'm aware that it's one symptom among many symptoms, it was just to prove a point.
A small point but good work.
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That's correct. Guess everyone can hop off of this train now.
I know I'm correct.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:59 pm to MightyYat
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Do you even OT?
You've already admitted that you diagnose and treat mentally ill patients. The only question is in what capacity and the pool of options isn't very large. So you don't have anything to really hide at this point. But, suit yourself.
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A small point but good work.
Your comment didn't require anything elaborate.
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I know I'm correct.
Well that makes two of us.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:00 pm to Forkbeard3777
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