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OT Lawyers: Question about Non-Compete

Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:06 pm
I am considering bringing in the best sales rep from a competing company. She contacted me to gauge interest and to tell me of the harsh working conditions and environment she is expected to perform under. She signed a non compete five years ago that runs for a total of two upon termination. I know that a non compete in LA is essentially meaningless. My question is, since this company operates out of GA and she would be employed in LA, would this void her non compete and protect her under LA law?
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:10 pm to
Non compete in Louisiana is not meaningless. It all depends on what the contract says. In Louisiana it's valid if it meets certain requirements. You probably ought to talk to a lawyer about that one.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:12 pm to
Talk to an attorney. There are likely to be choice of law provision(s) to analyze as well as the potential for conflicting state public policies (especially on restrictive covenant validity).

Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:15 pm to
I would definitely listen to the first two replies.
Posted by T Blair
Member since Feb 2013
409 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:16 pm to
A non-compete in Louisiana is not "essentially meaningless." A non compete in Louisiana can only restrict competition in geographic areas where the company is currently performing business and those parishes must be explicitly listed in the agreement. If the agreement was drafted in Georgia, I would think that including Louisiana in the non-compete agreement would be overly broad and unenforceable.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87727 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

If the agreement was drafted in Georgia, I would think that including Louisiana in the non-compete agreement would be overly broad and unenforceable.


Same but GA has a fairly new law in place relating to blue penciling employment agreements, we'd need to know more about the covenants, job duties, etc.

If you're really making a hiring decision you definitely don't want to wing this one.
Posted by T Blair
Member since Feb 2013
409 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

If you're really making a hiring decision you definitely don't want to wing this one.


Truth
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3092 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

A non compete in Louisiana can only restrict competition in geographic areas where the company is currently performing business and those parishes must be explicitly listed in the agreement. If the agreement was drafted in Georgia, I would think that including Louisiana in the non-compete agreement would be overly broad and unenforceable.

This. I think it's also required that the company restricting competition also be "doing business" in those parishes which are explicitly listed. I suppose it's possible that the GA company has complied with the statute, but that's probably not the case unless if it's a company that does business all over the southeast.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:28 pm to
No, you can't have Dan Enos.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

I know that a non compete in LA is essentially meaningless.

I've seen it enforced for insurance sales. The company the guy left for was in the same town though.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

I know that a non compete in LA is essentially meaningless.
It is weird how people all over the country assume this. Most states have some type of legal decision or statute that claims "non-competes are disfavored," or something along those lines. However, they then go on to say under what circumstances they well be enforced. Non compete agreements are then usually drafted so as to be enforceable under at least some sets of circumstances.

If you are dealing with a non-compete, you should assume it is enforceable until you speak with an attorney and he/she can evaluate all of the variables. Even then, it is likely the attorney won't be able to tell you 100% whether a court is likely to enforce all, some or none of the provisions of the non-compete.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I know that a non compete in LA is essentially meaningless.

myth
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7481 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:01 pm to
Who told you that non-compete's in LA are meaningless? Because they're totally wrong.

Go read La. R.S. 23:921.

They're very enforceable...we deal with them every day.

What areas/regions does her non-compete cover?
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9387 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:01 pm to
NCCs aren't meaningless anywhere.

Say what you want about attorneys, but good consultation is worth its price - go seek counsel.
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7481 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Say what you want about attorneys, but good consultation is worth its price - go seek counsel.


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64543 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:05 pm to
Too many issues to consider. She needs a lawyer.

Generally, non-competes must be reasonably circumscribed in respect of geography, time period and activities. Even then, many jurisdictions are imposing more stringent legal and public policy restrictions. They also cannot prohibit whistle blowing. The Feds are starting to come down on those types of restrictions with the quickness.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:07 pm to
there are other concerns, like trade secrets and what not

even if you don't have a NCA, you can still be enjoined from certain changes in employment if there are trade secret concerns
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7481 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:08 pm to
And the employee might get stuck with an injunction and then you're out of an employee until the matter settles.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26318 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:08 pm to
Someone had mentioned to me that for LA NCC's to be enforceable, it has to specify a particular geographical area (ie. certain parishes or cities where she would be prohibited from directly competing against prior employer). Wouldn't think you'd run into a problem unless you hire her and she starts trying to solicit business from clients of her previous company. But could depend on wording of the NCC, so best to get a copy of the NCC she signed and have an attorney (not the OT kind) read it to be sure
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64543 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:09 pm to
True. I know just enough about this area to call our employment guys downstairs.
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