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re: OT Lawyers, do I have any recourse with plumbing issue in new home purchase?

Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:33 pm to
Stout, so bottom line is I need to talk with a Real Estate attorney?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:34 pm to
Yes

Was your agent a dual agent repping both sides?
Posted by rmcelh1
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:35 pm to
I went through this exact scenario with a client. Yes, you have recourse, even if you signed an AS-IS or Redhibition clause (those are for unknown defects). If you can prove that the defect was known by the sellers, you have recourse against the sellers. If the sellers lawyer up, they will likely sue your home inspector's insurance to cover their costs to settle with you. They will have to prove that the inspector was negligent in his inspection. In our situation, as we removed the wall, on video, with the sellers and their lawyer present, the wood/sheetrock they used was stamped with a date that showed it was recently installed.
Posted by pistolpete23
In the present
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:36 pm to
You gonna pay a lawyer 5-6k to sue for 10k
Posted by pistolpete23
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 6:37 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:37 pm to
No, he was my agent. In fact he has helped a lot to make this right. When I told him about it he show up in the middle of the night to check it out, he was going to pay for the plumber to fix the leak if the warranty didn’t cover it, helped us diagnose the leak, offered to have us stay at one of his airbnb and has been in constant communication
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:37 pm to
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You gonna pay a lawyer 5-6k to sue for 10k




If he wins, they pay his lawyer. Also, he doesn't have to sue as I said. He can pay a few hundred to send a letter notifying them of this issue in case there are other issues they hid. Well worth it IMO
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 6:38 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:38 pm to
HOI would at least be my first call. Seems easier than the legal route
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:39 pm to
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No, he was my agent.



That's good. He will also have some advice I am sure since he knows Alabama RE laws as well but an attorney is the way to go.

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In fact he has helped a lot to make this right. When I told him about it he show up in the middle of the night to check it out, he was going to pay for the plumber to fix the leak if the warranty didn’t cover it, helped us diagnose the leak, offered to have us stay at one of his airbnb and has been in constant communication



That's pretty awesome customer service.
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:41 pm to
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Crap. I’m in Alabama. What constitutes due diligence for something that isn’t noticeable until it happens?


Basically, if you didn’t see it and ask, or the inspector didn’t note it, you’re SOL.

But, I am definitely not an expect. You realtor should know at least some of the basic laws, ours did and was a huge help. If they aren’t, hopefully they can point you to someone that can help.

Shitty situation man. We love our house, my wife really wanted it, and it’s almost exactly how I would have designed a house. After spending a bunch to fix it, we’ve had other problems (typical things to replace at 10-12 years for a house), and wife wants to move.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:43 pm to
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Did you sign a redhibitory waiver in your deed?

Do you think a warranty waiver is valid when it concerns something the seller purposely hid?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18407 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:43 pm to
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Basically, if you didn’t see it and ask, or the inspector didn’t note it, you’re SOL.



Can you provide a source for that law?
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:51 pm to
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HOI would at least be my first call


My first call is to realtor, which he did. He’ll know the laws, and sounds like has been a huge help. OP, you got a good one.

2nd call is HOI, I agree. I just don’t want him getting frustrated if it goes nowhere. I got pissed at them. Told them this is what I pay you for, and I’ve been with your company for 30 years without a claim...I’m changed companies.
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
1837 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:58 pm to
Ha! I’m just paraphrasing what I was told.

I’m looking for the actual law, but here is a link to a basic city hold harmless.

Mobile

Here’s an Alabama construction law
LINK
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 7:02 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:01 pm to
I never signed anything remotely resembling that
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:03 pm to
What kind of worthless home inspector doesn't run the water for a few minutes and check throughout the house?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:05 pm to
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Basically, if you didn’t see it and ask, or the inspector didn’t note it, you’re SOL.


If the seller knew and didn’t disclose, he’s not SOL. He can shove that up their arse if he’s willing to float the cash to sue until he gets his fees back.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:06 pm to
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What kind of worthless home inspector doesn't run the water for a few minutes and check throughout the house?



They do but they check at the sinks, showers, toilets etc for leaks. What OP is describing would take a while to appear. Way more than the 4 hours they spend doing the inspection. I am not a fan of home inspectors for many reasons, but this doesn't seem to be a failure on his part.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18407 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:07 pm to
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What kind of worthless home inspector doesn't run the water for a few minutes and check throughout the house?


I’m not sure if it was done or not but my assumption is the repairs that the sellers made randomly gave out. The water didn’t start seeping through the carpet until 3 days after we moved in.
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:09 pm to
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What OP is describing would take a while to appear. 


Going to make it harder to pin knowledge on the sellers.
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