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OT Lawyers: Could contact tracing customer logs be provided in a public records request?
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:38 pm
I was thinking in regards to Orleans Parish asking business to provide customer/patron logs. If the parish is keeping a master log of patrons contact info, is that considered public record? If so, then anyone can file the request for it, correct?
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:43 pm to Ben Hur
Interesting thought. Probably there would be some kind of exception for people's personal info although I don't know offhand.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:46 pm to Ben Hur
I was thinking that she is going to sell the info on the people...
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:46 pm to Ben Hur
I’m not giving anyone my information nor am I giving my kids information.
Minors should be protected and adults shouldn’t have to give information to be traced due to medical issues. That should violate some sort of HIPAA law.
Minors should be protected and adults shouldn’t have to give information to be traced due to medical issues. That should violate some sort of HIPAA law.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
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That should violate some sort of HIPAA law.
You are digging wayyyyy too deep if you are concerned about HIPAA. There are about a dozen violations of privacy before you have to pull out the HIPAA card.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
Just give a fake name and number
This isnt complicated
This isnt complicated
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:53 pm to Ben Hur
If the records were, the content /names would not be and would be subject to redaction. There's a lot of law about how the PRR is intended to provide the public with information on how the government is performing its duties. Your name/address/info are not part of that.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:54 pm to Ben Hur
Interesting question. I would think identifying information would be at the very least redacted from a records request, if not withheld altogether. But I admittedly am not well versed on the issue, that’s just a first impression
ETA: knowing Orleans Parish, they’d probably “redact” it by highlighting it black in adobe and then provide the .pdf so anyone could just undo the redactions
ETA: knowing Orleans Parish, they’d probably “redact” it by highlighting it black in adobe and then provide the .pdf so anyone could just undo the redactions
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:56 pm to Cosmo
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Just give a fake name and number
Richard N. Ball
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:57 pm to Ben Hur
Step 1. Allow everyone to use your name when dining.
Step 2. Get rid of Latoya.
Step 3. Alibi “I was dining at all these restaurants it wasn’t me”
Step 2. Get rid of Latoya.
Step 3. Alibi “I was dining at all these restaurants it wasn’t me”
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:58 pm to Ben Hur
To : Visions
Re: public records request
Re: public records request
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:59 pm to Cymry Teigr
Sadly I will avoid Nola with that Comrade in charge
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:16 pm to Ben Hur
Scrotie Mcboogerballs
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:28 pm to Ben Hur
Don't know about Louisiana public record law, but I do know that the Federal Freedom of Information Act has 9 exemptions which cannot be accessed, one of which includes confidential sources. § 552(b)(7):
I would imagine the actual names of the customers would fall under this.
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“records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law enforcement records or information (A) could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, (B) would deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication, (C) could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, (D) could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source, including a State, local, or foreign agency or authority or any private institution which furnished information on a confidential basis, and, in the case of a record or information compiled by criminal law enforcement authority in the course of a criminal investigation or by an agency conducting a lawful national security intelligence investigation, information furnished by a confidential source, (E) would dis- close techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law, or (F) could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual”
I would imagine the actual names of the customers would fall under this.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:38 pm to Ben Hur
I’d love to get my hands on those records just to see the stupid shite people put down.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:42 pm to Ghost of Colby
I really don't understand how anybody could be ok with the concept of contact tracing.
I mean, I'm not one of those douches who wears a tin foil hat and screams about my liberties. But at the same time, good lord the idea of contact tracing damn near stretches into George Orwell 1984 level shite. And people are just like, "whatever, good with me".
It's astounding to me that people are ok with this.
I mean, I'm not one of those douches who wears a tin foil hat and screams about my liberties. But at the same time, good lord the idea of contact tracing damn near stretches into George Orwell 1984 level shite. And people are just like, "whatever, good with me".
It's astounding to me that people are ok with this.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:55 pm to Ben Hur
Actually the idea of government mandating that a place of public accomodation provide a list of the names of their patrons is uncharted territory.
The constitution does not necessarily guarantee a right to privacy. That was a right created by William Brennan in Roe v. Wade However the 4th would apply becausea restaurant could say no to turning over the logs to the city unless the city provides a warrant. I could see a 1st Amendment case as well.
It would be an interesting test case against Latoya. I could see a Commander's conceivably being able to pull it off but a Mickey Ds????? I think it is overreach to a level that borders on the totalitarian.
The constitution does not necessarily guarantee a right to privacy. That was a right created by William Brennan in Roe v. Wade However the 4th would apply becausea restaurant could say no to turning over the logs to the city unless the city provides a warrant. I could see a 1st Amendment case as well.
It would be an interesting test case against Latoya. I could see a Commander's conceivably being able to pull it off but a Mickey Ds????? I think it is overreach to a level that borders on the totalitarian.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 9:00 pm to Ben Hur
When they get really serious they will use cell phone location technology. Thats how MeMaw shut down Alabama, they used cell phone locations to say we were not social distancing on our own.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 9:05 pm to Ben Hur
In divorce proceedings could a spouse subpoena the list from the business itself And not a FOIA a request from the government? The business is keeping the records. Possibly see if the wife really went “shopping” and checking her alibi.
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