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OT Lawyers - IPhone Face ID and police?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:26 pm
The issue of police demanding a passcode has been litigated in most jurisdictions but has anyone heard of a case involving Facial Recognition software?
I am curious if there has been a case where the police have held an iPhone up to a suspects face in order to unlock it and/or required a suspect to unlock with their face via warrant.
I am curious if there has been a case where the police have held an iPhone up to a suspects face in order to unlock it and/or required a suspect to unlock with their face via warrant.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:33 pm to jbgleason
This is why I don't use facial recognition on my phone.
Much cheaper than litigating all the way to a court of appeals or god forbid the Supreme Court.
Much cheaper than litigating all the way to a court of appeals or god forbid the Supreme Court.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:33 pm to jbgleason
I'm sure if you dig deep enough you'll find a case or two somewhere in the country. I think most agencies are too scared of litigation to be that bold.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:48 pm to Sentrius
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This is why I don't use facial recognition on my phone.
I originally activated it wearing my glasses thinking I could subvert any attempts to use it when I wasn’t wearing them. Then they built software that compensates for that issue.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:53 pm to jbgleason
I think because facial recognition is passive and you don't have to do anything it would be ok. I think courts have ruled that you cannot force someone to use their finger to unlock the phone because they actually have to take an action.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:08 pm to jbgleason
Does Face ID work with your eyes closed?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:12 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Does Face ID work with your eyes closed?
Yes. Tried that to fool it. Didn’t work.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:28 pm to jbgleason
Biometrics are not protected under the fifth amendment because large points of entry, casinos and hotels already can pay for software that scans your face with their security cameras.
So use a pin code always because it is assumed that you could use it for personal finances therefore it is protected under your fifth amendment rights.
Lesson is don't use any biometrics to authenticate in anything you have nefarious shite in. also don't be nefarious frick and you never have to worry.
So use a pin code always because it is assumed that you could use it for personal finances therefore it is protected under your fifth amendment rights.
Lesson is don't use any biometrics to authenticate in anything you have nefarious shite in. also don't be nefarious frick and you never have to worry.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:35 pm to jbgleason
quote:It’s far as an iPhone goes if you don’t have your eyes open facial recognition won’t work.ETA just tried it and it appears I may have been wrong.
am curious if there has been a case where the police have held an iPhone up to a suspects face in order to unlock it and/or required a suspect to unlock with their face via warrant.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:38 pm to Sentrius
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This is why I don't use facial recognition on my phone
What kind of shenanigans are you getting into where you might want to “protect” yourself from law enforcement needing to access your phone for evidence?
Dick pics?
Upskirts?
It’s ok to confess here. You’re completely anonymous.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 3:39 pm to jbgleason
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my glasses
4 eyes
Posted on 12/27/19 at 4:06 pm to SEClint
Just old man readers.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 4:13 pm to jbgleason
What if you make a really distorted face, does it recognize that? IDK of any cop that could force you to make a normal looking face
Posted on 12/27/19 at 4:16 pm to jbgleason
lol I'm sorry, I'm just screwing with you
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:05 pm to SEClint
Press the side button 5 times rapidly. Then face id wont work
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:32 pm to jbgleason
Easy way to prevent LEO’s to look at your phone. Don’t do anything illegal.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:42 pm to jbgleason
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Yes. Tried that to fool it. Didn’t work.
If you have Face ID set up correctly it won’t unlock even if you’re not looking directly at it. Either it recognized you before you closed your eyes or you don’t have it set up to require your attention.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:18 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Easy way to prevent LEO’s to look at your phone. Don’t do anything illegal.
Ok boot licker......
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:20 pm to jbgleason
Don’t do illegal things and this will never happen to you.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:23 pm to jbgleason
I mean... it's not like that would stop them. The ol' 'Oh, I ran the guy's license plate and it turned up stolen/unregistered but when I went to confirm later it was a-okay' trick is widely used by Louisiana law enforcement to stop vehicles where there would otherwise be no reasonable suspicion. Not much of a stretch for 'Oh, I guess the guy looked at his phone by accident and we just found it unlocked' trick to be added to the repertoire.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 8:24 pm
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